Where have all the Old Timers gone?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TruckDriversDaughter, May 16, 2022.

  1. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    So, what happened to this gal? (I can see her hiding under the kitchen table:oops:) We need more info, dear, why all the questions?:dontknow: Please don't say you want to follow in the old mans footsteps,,,
     
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  3. merv85

    merv85 Light Load Member

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    For a 48 year old you look great:D

    must have been flat-bedder
     
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    just_sayin Light Load Member

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    37 years, the equipment has came a long way. I'm not a fan of the 14-hour rule. And last but not least, the camaraderie is all but gone.
     
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    Cascadia life has ruined everything…….
     
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  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe in 1848... :biggrin_25523: :biggrin_25522:
     
  7. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    Well first off what age do you have to be to be considered an old timer? If its 50 + then yeah I'd qualify. For me I started driving at a much older age although I did drive on the farm which was off road, I was around 30 years of age before I really got involved in the transport industry. Altogether I only have about 12 years of driving experience have towed almost every kind of trailer except wide loads and finally got my dream job as a road train operator hauling Iron Ore for the mines with out rail. Did a 11 month stint of driving in the USA for a Utah based company just north of Salt Lake City which was quite an experience, loved the US highways the culture, food, Nascar, Indycar, NFL was all new and it was quite easy to integrate to the US way of life I was even offered a green card but declined the offer due to the conditions. And always considered Australia as my home. Things that I didn't like first off with drivers was the lack of decency when it came to just helping someone out, even a something as simple as a lane change, I had one driver refuse to let me merge and then when I had no choice but to push in had the hide to abuse me on the radio what ever happened to good old fashioned helping ones neighbor out? Or applying the "Golden Rule"? So what I miss about the early days of driving was that everyone lent a hand was only to happy to help a fellow driver out they did not hog the fuel stations and had the common sense to park out of the way, now its every one for himself the world has become unfortunately a very selfish self centered place, considering we are living in a so called Christian society it does make me wonder what has happened to so called "Christian Principles"
     
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    I'd say 62, when I retired, at 62 and 12 seconds, that made me an "old timer", even though I drove my entire career like an "old timer". It's tough to compare today to when we started, not many things we held dear carry over to today. Life, especially trucking, has morphed into such a position, we don't need to rely on one another, and when someone has to, they don't know what to do. In our "instant gratification" society today, if pushing a button doesn't fix the problem, they're screwed.
    America,,,yeah,,,you list a couple perks, all in peril, well, not football, but America has become quite a different place lately,, and while I never, EVER thought of leaving the USA, I'm awful tempted now. I'm absolutely apalled at how America treats it's seniors now that I am one. Money, my friend, it all comes down to money, and make sure they bilk us seniors out of our money before we die. Healthcare in America,, ironically, will kill us all, financially, that is. Who do you see working at Walmart, or gas stations, or McDonalds? Mostly seniors who can't make it on Social Security, pixx poor if you ask me,,,
     
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  9. Moosetek13

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    Wow, all the crying just makes me want to cry.

    The high cost of healthcare has a fix.
    Don't get sick and don't pay it.
    Die when you die.
    Simple.

    And is not relying on other drivers such a bad thing?
    We all have cell phones, Qualcom or other means to stay in touch with better options than another driver somewhere out there who may or may not be able to help.

    Trucks are more reliable, have better comfort and are safer today.

    I have dreams of the 'good old days' as well.
    Times when I could just flit off to Hawaii or Boston or Boise on a whim, with nothing more in my pocket than a few bucks and a pass to see an airport for the first or umpteenth time. When I could ask for a glass of wine when I was 16 years old, and get it because I was 35,000 feet up.
    Dodging CHP because I could recognize the headlight pattern.
    Skipping classes in high school because I knew how to fool the system.

    Ah... the good old days.
     
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    Trucks are not more reliable today……
     
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  11. TruckDriversDaughter

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    @201 Yep, you caught me alright! Evidently there’s no hiding on here (Where’s the emoticon hiding under a table, paranoid, when you need it?)

    No, I have a lot of questions about everything.

    This thread garnered far more responses than I anticipated, so trying to respond to everyone seems like an exercise in futility on a small phone with very unreliable reception.

    No, sir, I don’t plan to follow in dad’s footstep. I have do have some other ideas…

    All the talk of how the old timer’s have died off, the lack of camaraderie, the back and forth arguments of life being better/worse with the advancement of technology and more restrictions/the detriment of technology/less autonomy, the disappearance of things like good sit-down restaurants…

    It’s all at once, sad, confusing, overwhelming, and hilarious.

    I can’t figure out if things are better or worse, quite frankly.

    Trying to define “Old Timer” in itself is tricky, too, given that some have been driving on tractors and such before garnering a CDL, while others have been driving for an impressive amount of years professionally.

    Some, much like my late father, who did both, if you factor in growing up on a farm and then later driving professionally for an estimated 19 years. From pulling containers, to flatbeds to step-decks, driving for multiple companies, to owning his first truck, then upgrading to one after another, the bad move he made when he owned two and hired another driver who screwed him over and cost him dearly in repairs and tickets… Bouncing back and forth between small company driver to O/O, pulling countless over-sized loads, and hauling everything from a.c units for condos to the sandy beaches of Pensacola, to Kubota tractors, to Army trucks, to…well, you get the idea. He also harbored a special hatred for J.B. Hunt (guess it was the 55 MPH limit mentioned upthread?) He would rail about them endlessly. B!tching about the major companies paying .50 per mile (“I won’t drive for under a dollar, bleep-bleep, angry raised fist*) Other hatreds included the DOT, weigh stations, inspections, certain states, running empty, and any 4-wheeler that dared to cut him off. Oh, yeah. Can’t forget those REEFERS parked next to him late at night! A lot of stories of things like stopping early on in his driving career at the scene of a car accident, flipped over with two women on the ground, one pregnant who apparently died after he ripped everything out of the sleeper and tried to make them both as comfortable as possible while “help” arrived…later apologizing to my mother for ruining all of his bedding with their blood…

    All the memories of riding with him that come flooding back.

    Laughing over the “sad” disappearance of Lot Lizards :eek::p Guess y’all have moved on to all the “sugars babies” looking to clean out the wallets/bank accounts of “Sugar Daddies” *grin*

    Your own good advice regarding spotting O/Os and reporting trucks riding in tandem (had no idea they were locked down at 63, so I guess I was off by 2 MPH) I would report them if I had Bluetooth + headset but I’d rather not wreck my own vehicle trying to fiddle with my phone.

    Maybe Siri can do that for me? Can I yell at my phone, “Betch, you better call *insert number* on license plate # such-and-such RIGHT now!”

    The hatred of dispatchers by @Grumppy

    Yikes! There goes my BIG “secret” plan of trying to become one. I’d be constantly fighting with any company I worked for and all the freight brokers and arguing withy bosses over the “ETA” because I will *always* be on the side of the truck driver, unless he’s a dangerous and a belligerent…umm…besterd?

    Sounda like a no-win situation. I’d be hearing the words “Get out, your ### is FIRED!” on the first day!

    Lots of questions to come, just not sure how/where to post them all…

    And dang-it, I’m done trying to correct any and all typos *throws phone*
     
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