Which job is better hauling multiple camper trailers or working for expediter company like landstar

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TowHaul, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. USA Trucker

    USA Trucker Light Load Member

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    Are those 3-4 dollar LS loads to the truck or to LS ?

    My guess is it's gross to LS then they take out their deductions and what you end up with is less than what you currently get per mile.
     
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  3. TowHaul

    TowHaul Medium Load Member

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    LS takes 45% of the load i believe.
     
  4. TowHaul

    TowHaul Medium Load Member

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    wrong you have to look at milea both ways not just outbound pay. If i make 2.20 outbound and 0.60 return my average pay isnt that impressive
     
  5. TowHaul

    TowHaul Medium Load Member

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    average $1.40 mile. ...IF that after deadhead miles added in for picking up trailers 6 hours away
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    Because they don't.

    You need to understand how the system works first, it isn't a company - landstar - that just simply calls you up and says "hey we got this load going to Nashville for $3 a mile", but rather you are put on a list in the computer and an agent, independent of landstar but under their franchise, will call you if they think you will work for them, and then offer you market rates.

    The loads you are seeing are not from the LS internal load board, I just looked at a number of B, Super B and D loads and I only see one that is over $2 a mile and that I think is a first posted one, other agents will pick that up and try to sell the load to other LS BCOs as their own.

    You may be looking at the external LB, and that is mostly work that they can't get covered.

    The agent thing is also an issue, you want consistent work which means you have to sell your services to the agents, not sit there and wait for it to come to you because you will be waiting for a while. This is expedite freight and expedite freight has a long dwell time between loads, averages 12 to 24 hours in a good lane.

    Most of the people here are running tractors under Inaway or LS contracts, they don't see the issues with B/Super B/D units, they sell capacity, you will be selling exclusive use.
     
  7. TowHaul

    TowHaul Medium Load Member

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    so camper gig is better pay?
     
  8. shogun

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    My dad ran for $2.30 a mile from Indiana to va, then deadheaded 97 miles and picked up three cars going back to Chicago to the same place, it paid $2 a mile. Then he loaded $2.24 a mile in Indiana headed to South Dakota, and right now has some kind of cargo transporter lined up in South Dakota going to Utah and another car, total $2.77 a mile, the transporter pays $1.93 by itself. Then he's hauling this big 4x4 show truck and a few cars back towards Memphis when he gets to Utah, he delivered the show truck out there in September. It should pay over $2 altogether, since the truck already paid over $1/mile by itself and he can fit two more vehicles at least. He's doing pretty good this month.
     
  9. TowHaul

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    i'm very familiar with the terrible job of hauling multiples on a 53' trailer. what your dad isnt taking into account is all the deadhead miles, so no way you just average 2.77 a mile plus 2.30 a mile... i've done this job for 5 years now.... its nothing but deadhead once you drop off trailers...especially if picking up multiple cars. not only that but the deadhead from your homebase to Indiana is ridiculous. I need people with LS expereince to share their story, i know the multi hauls area nightmare compared to what a tow/haul hauling 2 trailers and one care back can do.

    I commonly haul 2 trailers outbound at 2.20 a mile, then a reload at .90 a mile However after all REAL miles are calculated from the moment i turn my turn in my driveway it comes out to 1.20ish a mile.
     
  10. shogun

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    You can trust me when I say that all miles are accounted for by my mom who does the bookkeeping and books the return loads. She is business savvy, having retired as a manager for a major retailer and knows numbers. The advantage they have is the willingness to go where the good paying freight is and not go straight back to Indiana, sometimes they take a week or better to get back. I'm not sure why you only get .90 on a backhaul, she makes 2.00 a mile her goal on the return, and sometime picks up multiples at the same place. Their backhaul from Virginia was 2.00 a mile and all three cars were within a mile of each other.

    I won't clog your thread with anymore about them, but they average 1.65 for all miles on an a bad to average week. He loads the INOPS because he has a winch and the capacity to haul 75k, so he has advantages over most, especially going wherever the freight is instead of back to Indiana.
     
  11. TowHaul

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    Dont mean to argue but no loads over 800 miles other than HEAVY EQUIPTMENT pays anywhere near $2 a mile on a reload. A straight truck tow haul cannot haul more than around 10-12k lbs max. Wasting time hauling single cars on a 53' trailer 400 miles or less for more than .90 per mile is a complete waste of time. You must calculate your time into the final equation.
     
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