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Which of these would you choose? Belly dump, end dump, pneumatic, frac sand, roll off

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chancy, Mar 19, 2014.

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  1. Mar 19, 2014 #1
    Chancy

    Chancy Bobtail Member

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    I just got hired by a company that does all of this and hot oil too. Which do you like best? They tell me I can choose which area I want to work in and I'm just trying to get a heads up. I'm going to do them all and get that experience but what ya think? It'd be nice to know what to expect in advance.
     
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  3. Mar 19, 2014 #2
    cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Personally, I have seen an end dump tip over. No thanks on that one. Not afraid but I don't like damaging equipment.
     
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  4. Mar 19, 2014 #3
    WitchingHour

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    Is the end dump framed or frameless? If it's frameless, get more experience... trust me. If it were me, personally, I'd go for the belly dump... I've never run those, and would like to have that experience. Make sure you wear your PPE when you're dealing with hot oil... a lot of people get complacent around that stuff, and I've seen what can happen when hot AC meets bare skin.
     
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  5. Mar 19, 2014 #4
    Derailed

    Derailed Road Train Member

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    When you say hot oil are you referring to hot asphalt tankers? If so thats what I would choose.
     
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  7. Mar 19, 2014 #5
    Allow Me.

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    I've done bottom dumps (sand/gravel/dirt/asphalt) easy to load/unload, never have to get out of the truck hardly. And end dumps, which require a bit more "set-up" to dump and time. Pneumatic, not done it, but been around it. Requires some manual labor dragging hoses etc plus making sure tubs are empty completely. There are gravity pneumatics which dump over a grizzly. Pneumatics you spend time waiting in line to unload, not bottom dumps/end dumps. Roll-offs, done them also. Just a bit more work dropping your empty, picking up the loaded, moving it out of it's cubby hole, dropping it, moving the empty into the cubby hole, dropping it, then picking up the loaded. A lot of times, you have to make the roll-off "legal" because the construction site has filled it over capacity. But if you're hourly, who cares, right ? :mwink:
     
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  8. Mar 19, 2014 #6
    WitchingHour

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    The thing with roll-offs is, aside from what you stated, a lot of customers can be really fickle, so you have to be careful not to leave marks on asphalt, you have to be willing to tell them "no" when they want it right up against the house, etc.
    If I were to do it again, I'd probably prefer doing it for something like a scrap metal recycling operation than for C&D work.
    Pneumatics... be just my luck that I'm delivering lime fill, and the wind would be coming across the not very well sealed silo and right back at me... lime fill... breathing that #### in, it just feels like you're having the very life choked out of you.
     
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  9. Mar 19, 2014 #7
    Chancy

    Chancy Bobtail Member

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    They said they'll start training me on end dumps first...these guys said that that belly dumps are so easy that I wouldn't need any special training to speak of on those. So for the first 6 months (unless necessity deems otherwise) I'll be working out of their aggregate yard. Then if I want I can go do pneumatics which I think would include frac sand which I'm still unclear about. I've done research online and it appears frac sand is hauled in many different ways including pneumatics, end dumps and side dumps... maybe there are other ways too. Can anyone clear that up for me? Their other yard also does the rolloffs which they say are their hazmat loads...would those be closed boxes? Obviously I haven't had the time to go over everything with these guys, I figure it will all get clear in time. Then they do some hot oil (asphalt) but I got the impression that there's not a lot of that.
    This is a small/medium sized local company with about 100 power units and I feel fortunate to get on with them right out of driving school. They will work the 48 states and canada to get work but they basically are a regional carrier. These guys told me that as far as me doing aggregate that I would stay in Oklahoma. I'll have an assigned truck and can take it home with me which brings me to another question...where do you guys park your rigs? If all I had was the tractor I could park it behind my house but I'm afraid that the combination rig would be a problem. Will truck stops let you park on a regular basis for a day or two at a time in their lots?
    Thanks for your help.
     
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  10. Mar 19, 2014 #8
    MNoutkast

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    Belly is the easiest by far. There is very little if any down time. For gravel that would be my second choice only after side dump. End would be my last choice only because of the tip over factor.
     
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  11. Mar 19, 2014 #9
    BigPerm

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    Learn to be a good end-dump driver & you'll have more job possibilities. Belly dump a monkey could drive ( almost ).

    It takes a little bit of common sense to run an end-dump...but then there's the satisfaction of not laying it over. At least for today..LOL!
     
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  12. Mar 19, 2014 #10
    poppapump1332

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    End dump hands down if your scared get a dog lol besides tankers my favorite trailer to pull
     
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