which states or area do you hate to drove through???

The ignorant SOB's in Ohio still left the truck speed limit # 55 for the other 4-lane roads (like US 30, US 33, US 35, etc) Also even on some of the interstates (other than the Pike) they still have a split speed for trucks, mostly close to the bigger cities.

And yeah a lot of the 2 laners in in Southern and eastern part of OH are absolute garbage, US 250 from I 77 to the WV boarder is a perfect example. Where I live the landscape is the same if not a little bit worse, and the state of MN has gone through the trouble of actually upgrading some of the busy 2-lanes over the past 50 years, unlike OH. Most of our county roads around here put Ohios state and even US routes to shame.

Now if only we could keep I-90 from turning into a washboard...

 

They were NOT ignorant to do that in Ohio. It's an incentive for trucks to use the toll road. Too many of them were avoiding the toll because it was so easy, and theres two problems with that: Too much truck traffic in little towns because omg trucks are so horrible, and lost revenue from tolls....

Come on, its a good idea. Atleast in PA there is no way to get around certain parts of the turnpike in a truck.

 

They were indeed VERY ignorant to do that in OH. US 35 is a perfectly good road, 4-lane, controlled access at some points there is only about a 10-mile stretch of 2 lane in the southeast somewhere. Ditto for 33 and 30. OH and most eastern states need to upgrade the roads like the rest of the country instead of laying blacktop over every little molehill and routing busy US and state highways right through the town square. On the twisty, windy 2-lanes I totally agree with 55. On a nice 4-lane road like US 33 or US 35 the split speed limit is simply as slap in the face to truck drivers.

You pay a fuel tax driving across OH no matter what.

Build decent roads, bypasses, etc through and around towns without 3 dozen stoplights and you won't have to worry about the "big, bad truck." And going from Parkersburg, WV to Chicago, what kind of fool would run all the way up to the toll road?

And isn't the Pike owned by foreigners anyway?

 

Let's see...NYC, northern NJ, New England, Michigan, Utah, Washington, Oregon, California, Louisiana, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio. Utah I hate the most. And I did try to burn the state down. I'm very annoyed that it didn't take. I really, really hate Utah.

 

I think honestly the worst stretches are from Richmond to DC and Bronx to Hartford. I've never been on 95 between Boston and RI. From Baltimore to Newark I never run into that many problems. In NYC I've learned to just expect the unexpected, even that doesn't bother me too much...

 

If you had any clue as to what kind of weight ran up and down 250 from 77 you'd know why its so rough. Also tell me how they'd turn 250 into a 4 lane around the lake? Last time I was down there, Monday, there wasn't enough room to widen it. If you ran 250 below 22, which I doubt you did, you'd really be whinning.

I do agree that if the car speed is 65 on a 4 lane then the truck speed should be the same.

Ohio toll road is owned by private investors.

 

I never said 250 should be a 4-lane, I said Ohio should upgrade it (along with many other of their garbage 2 -lane roads) , redo the road and grade so there isn't any switchbacks unnecessary steep grades. Don't take stretch what I said and contort it. Oh and some actual shoulders on roads like 250 would be nice . So what if there's a lake? Build some bridges, blast through some hills. Don't just half-##### it by laying blacktop down on every little molehill. This isn't 1950 anymore.

And FYI yes I have been 250 between the WV boarder and US 22, luckily with an MT wagon. Otherwise I wouldn't bring it up. First and last time I ever do it. Also it isn't nearly as bad as dragon-tail in NC (never been on it), but they should put an advisory saying trucks not recommended or something like that.

As I stated before Ohio needs to fix their state and US highways the right way, along with many other Eastern US states. . The landscape here in Southeast MN, and SW Wisconsin is just as bad if not worse in spots than SE Ohio. As I stated before most of our county roads around here put Ohio's state and US 2 lanes to shame. Missouri's are unsafe garbage too. Indiana's aren't much better.

 

Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, NW Texas and panhandle of Oklahoma going into Colorado towards Denver, the worst strech of road.

 

Wyoming I-80 does suck, I hate hate HATE the stretch between Cheyenne and Rawlins, esp the 3 sisters. In the summer months, When I run from Minneaplois/St Paul to California, I'll run through the black hills of SD, through LUSK, WY, CASPER, and then down WY220 and US 287 to Rawlins. Nothing gets my blood pressure boiling like dealing with a freak snowstorm with tourists in the middle of July. Less miles, less tourists, less traffic period.

I don't have a problem with any of the backroads in Wyoming that are east of the Rockies.

Same thing with Nebraska out in the middle of Nowhere you can Fly.

Iowa too never had a problem with those roads, except for the ####### that screw up I80 in the snow...

 

How do you upgrade a road when there is no place to go? Or are you talking about paving? They are doing 250 just SE of the lake right now as we speak. they are actually supposed to shut it down for 30-45 days. Can't wait to see how they route everyone around that mess.... But you complaining about berms is just to funny. FYI, your on a 2 lane...LOL What do you expect? If you need plenty of room for error, stay on the interstate. Also, don't go on to many 2 lanes in KY, IN, IL, MO, MI, PA,.... I could keep going but, basically any of the 48 states. Don't know much about Hawaii or Alaska?

I will agree that ohio has let their roads get alot worse than they usually do. Don't know if it has/had anything to do with the economy or what?

Almost forgot, since your whinning about hills and curves, don't forget WV, there are plenty in that state. Maybe you can talk them into leveling it out too?