Who’s in and who’s out?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Midwest Trucker, Jul 21, 2025.
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and while I’d like to see the numbers over the year rather than 2 months, it’s been the cheapest trailer I’ve ran since I started doing this. -
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It was nice starting off, it doesn’t hurt to sit, but now I have 52 weeks worth of work, and not less thing to worry about
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I'm not going to sink to the level of responding to the one who never seems to constantly learn but I'll share my week without numbers. Why? Personal preference. Every now and then I break my own rule but I do not believe it wise to share numbers on this public forum. I think every time someone DOES share their good numbers 50 suckers start thinking about buying a truck. Those 50 suckers account for 90% of the #####*n' on this forum about how trucking is ruined by new entrants. I wish more people would consider this.
I left Monday morning with a solid run, around $3pm on a multi stop. Had all 5 stops done by Tuesday morning but put myself in a very bad spot (for me). Had to deadhead almost 150 miles to get a decent run Tuesday. Got lucky too! That's a lot of deadhead for me in my neck of the woods but it paid off. I turned up the heat on the calls and emails and scored.
That lucky run was to another marginal area where I again got lucky. Well, maybe not lucky. I again had to work the phones and email pretty hard. Got a really good one out of there (nowhere WV) with a Mom n Pop brokerage who was super happy to be working with someone who spoke their language (I don't mean this literally, but maybe figuratively AND literally). This one put me back close to home Thursday morning way above what I need to average per mile. I was, at that point, just looking for fuel money home.
Once again, I constantly learned what I already knew. Pissing and moaning doesn't work like calling and emailing and fighting hard. I got a decent run and guess what? It turned to crap. It wasn't ready and the broker wanted me to wait half the day to get loaded just for fuel money home or no TONU. I said look dude, if I find another run home in 30 minutes I'm not worried about your TONU. I had a goal and was ready to get home. I got another run for the same rate, took a couple of hours to find it and then ran it. Got home by 5 yesterday.
I'm exactly $1k less gross this week than some of my better weeks trucking and I'm happy with that.
What did I constantly learn? I learned that if you work the spot market hard it will provide.
Here's what I didn't do:
*I didn't wallow in self pity for more than about a minute and while I was I had my DAT alerts on in the background.
*I didn't take freight I didn't want for a rate that wasn't sustainable (by sustainable I mean averages out to a sustainable long term average)
*I didn't sit long in an area I knew wouldn't provide. I had a backup plan and stuck to it. Sometimes that backup plan includes saying F this and rolling home. I was close to that but didn't have to in the end.
*I didn't consider giving up and going to work for someone
I do this every week. I have for many years.
Is this a sustainable business? I have constantly learned this. It is as sustainable as a career with any company. I could go bankrupt tomorrow. So could they. There are no guarantees except that if you want it you'll always have to fight for it.
"Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."Last edited: Aug 8, 2025 at 8:50 AM
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I don't think everyone has to own a business to be successful. Nothing wrong with a being a employee.
Employees like a few here in this thread, they stand out to the good employers, and those guys are likely to go above and beyond anything a one man OO could make.
I hope those guys get lucky. I do think luck plays into it. 100%. But a guy has to stay in the game long enough to find that lucky time. They don't come around often, and a guy has to still be gettin after it to take advantage of it when it happens.Razororange, Siinman, D.Tibbitt and 1 other person Thank this. -
Oh, don't get me wrong Skateboard, I'm not knocking working for someone. Everyone has their reasons for the way they run. I worked for someone for an entire career before this one and miss a lot of things about it but it's just not what I want to do anymore, personally. My problem is that some people who constantly learn haven't learned that there's more than one way to do things.
I've got a good friend who thinks nothing of taking a specialized load across the country and deadheading 2500 miles back home. They are a team and still average out better than $3pm and are fine with it.Siinman, ElmerFudpucker, D.Tibbitt and 3 others Thank this. -
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I think you can make money with any equipment, you just have to narrow your focus. A niche doesn’t necessarily mean specialized equipment. It could mean specific lane or region. You work that lane or region you learn the players, cycles, rates, etc then you capitalize on that by offering the best service. It’s impossible to do all that if you are just running wild. You don’t spend enough time in one spot the learn the market and you don’t work with people enough to build the reputation.
If you don’t focus you will never get top dollar.Razororange, Siinman, sirjeff and 2 others Thank this. -
If I were younger or if I could learn to haul heavy equipment or cars on someone else's dime that's what I would start doing tomorrow. I've said for years that if the spot market dries up bad enough that's what I'll do. It hasn't happened yet.
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