Who's The Worst Of Them ALL to work for?

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by MACK E-6, Jan 28, 2006.

Who's the worst of them all?

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    Swift Transportation.

    22.7%
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    JB Hunt.

    8.8%
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    Werner

    11.5%
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    Covenant Transport.

    5.2%
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    (New) Prime Inc.

    3.7%
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    CR England.

    21.1%
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    Other

    27.2%
  1. Tip

    Tip Tipster

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    Newspapers are where you go to find the companies you do NOT want to work for, so they're quite valuable at job-hunting time.

    Strike one.

    Recruiters lie, lie, lie.

    Strike two.

    What you need to do is try to get a job at a company where you get on a waiting list or have to more or less beg to get it. Any job that is easy to get is a job that sucks, as you are easy to replace. At such jobs you will be abused and bent over on a regular basis. Most drivers don't put up with such treatment long, so they quit. This is the reason said jobs are advertised all over the #### place. Do you want to get sucked into that whirlpool?
     
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  3. mrsfuzzy

    mrsfuzzy Bobtail Member

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    Tried 'em all, left 'em all. Currently trying to get benefits, the ones you pay for as an Ownere/Operator from C.R. England. It has taken one month to find the insurer, for the insurer to give info to the Dr.s office so my first appointment after accident was 5 weeks after leaving trauma center.

    Ask how many dr's offices recognize AUI? ZERO!

    !!!!!!You mean you don't have Blue Cross or something like that? We don't know your insurance, so we can't make an appointment - go to the emergency room, they will take you. !!!! Sure, got released, after 2 visits, as ok, but in pain. But yesterday an Orthopedic Dr. read trauma center records and noted broken fingers were not set so now have to rebrake them and go to hand specialist. IT HURTS, IT's SWOLLEN, IT's BLACK...does not get medical care in a hospital!!! I can vouch for that!!!

    Maybe Tips advice is the best, get on a waiting list - did try with UPS and later found out, when you get an email which says YOU ARE QUALIFIED, it does not mean a driving job is open, it means you can now start JOB HUNTING AT EACH LOCATION!!! And, if you've forgotten my first warning, STAY AWAY FROM C.R. ENGLAND - unless you like working for FREE!!!! ENGLAND sent an IRS form: WAGES 0 - they didn't put how many thousands of miles I worked for them!!!
    PS - any advice on what career comes after surviving a nasty crash??
     
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    What a story, Mrs. Fuzzy. Believe it or not, I've heard worse. A LOT worse. Try going to that school in Vegas that trains people to drive heavy equipment. Get a grant if you go, too. Don't be paying for any retraining using your own funds.

    There is an ex-England driver out there in Cyberia who posted on a site a few years back a testimony that has yours beaten in one way. He drove 25,000 miles for England only to have a big goose egg in pay to show for it. He lost about everything he owned.

    There is a reason that several of the absolute worst companies in the industry are based in Utah. I bet you know the reason. If not, simply think about it a bit. I'll give you a hint: Moroni. Joseph Smith. Brigham Young. Tightwads. Right-to-work.
     
  5. kdryan

    kdryan A Pleasant Fellow

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    I just finished all 53 pages of this thread and my eyes are just about to bug out of my head. I even read the off topic crap that had no business being in this thread... 8)

    Let me make something clear before I start.

    I am not really experienced in trucking. I have 1.5 years local hauling with hazmat, tankers, doubles, and pneumatics. So if this is a bit naive, then shoot me. I am just now starting my OTR experience, and I came to this forum hoping to get the information I need to start out right. While I may not have a lot of experience with trucking, I like to think I have a bit of common sense.

    It seems that most of the complaining going on is highly subjective at best. In the case of Swift, I have no doubt that they are a sub-standard company, but the complaints seem to be about the drivers for the most part, and not the company. I said this in another thread I posted and I'll repeat it here. Safety is the responsibility of the driver first and foremost. Even if the drivers are new, they should have enough common sense to be safe about their jobs. The problem I have seen in my short life is that too many drivers get in a big hurry and that causes accidents. My instructor once said 'The only thing you can do fast in a truck is get in trouble' and I have seen that proven time and time again.

    In example, I was parked at a plant where two (tanker) trucks needed to be in line to unload molten sulfur at the two available stations. I was at the rear station, when the truck in front of me left. I had also almost finished when another truck decided to take that front station. Coming around me, he was in such a hurry to get parked and unload (which took about a total of ten minutes from getting out to getting back in) that he didn't watch what he was doing and his trailer tires took the front bumper off of my tractor. The sad part of this is that if he had waited 30 seconds more, I would have been gone and he could have had a simpler time pulling into the station. He would have spent more than that 30 seconds just backing in. There is no way he couldn't have known I was done, because the last thing you do before you leave is to stow a pipe on the truck, which I was doing! It's a highly visible thing. That driver ended up getting fired, and I worked for the company for another year before I got fed up with it and quit.

    My point is, that yes companies are major defecation orifices and will use a driver. Dispatchers are sometimes liars, and will use a driver, the hours are long, the pay is small, and the benefits are few. However, I have also found in the world that you are generally treated how you treat others. If you are cool with people, they will be cool with you. If you go into someplace and say 'Unload this ####### truck now, I got to get going' you are going to get a reciprocal response. If you are cool and talk to people respectfully, you'll do much better...

    It's all about attitude, and it's real easy to let your attitude slide to the negative side of the coin. I have let that happen and it has cost me in the past. Life is much easier when you are just cool to people...

    Kevin

    P.S. I am REALLY looking forward to going O/O when I get some experience under my belt... ;)
     
  6. kdryan

    kdryan A Pleasant Fellow

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    Jesus, did I just kill a 53 page thread?
     
  7. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    Common Sense is not all that common and yes, truck companies don't really care about drivers. Their prime goal is freight delivery.

    Dispatchers can be exceptionally good or complete i d i o t s, and sometimes they can be called other names. When I first started driving (1989), I was told by drivers that the company would not get me home unless I demanded home time. Since I had been in college for three years, I decided to play it out. I mentioned every so often, after my first six weeks out that it was time to go home.

    Well, I never saw home for a long time. I left on the truck on the 27th of December and I pulled into the terminal at Nampa, Idaho on the 6th of June; unloaded my gear into my car; left the papers in the seat and the keys in the ignition. I never fueled the refer or the truck. Never told anyone I was in and did not give a dame about the freight. I just went home.

    Three weeks later the boss called me up and asked if I was ready to go back out and I told him when I am ready I will call him and slammed the phone down. Two weeks later I phoned in for a truck and went back to work. (Five months and no consideration!) Never happened again.

    As for O/O, I won't go that route again. Not enough money in it. Too much responsibility and I don't want to work for banks and truck shops. Yes, some make money out there, but few make any real money. Company drivers can do well if you don't mind being a slave. Pay has come up since I started, but cost of living is far higher because of our National and Personal debt to profit ratio in this country. (What profit?, That is what I mean!) $50,000 pick up trucks, and half million dollar homes seem to be about norm for anything of quality and then only maybe.
     
  8. Stormcroe

    Stormcroe Light Load Member

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    Sorry to hear about everything you went through. After my crash in 90 I spent 8 years as a Pre-School teacher, for a none profit agency. I only went back to trucking because I got tired of all the crap from the
    parents that though you owed them the world, and the program was "FREE". That is another story for another dat.

    Question though. were you a company driver or an O/O? If you were a company driver get a good lawyer and sue the crap out of them.

    Good Luck
    Blessed Be
     
  9. Drive-a-Mack

    Drive-a-Mack Light Load Member

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    ..well I for one will clip this out & send it to C.L. Werner himself this Xmas!! Anyone else want to send C.L. an early Xmas card?! (wonder if any of his kids are gonna work on Xmas!)
     

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    Drive-a-Mack Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_2559:
    ..who said "Don't get mad, get even?!"
     
  11. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    A Typical: Just a number on a board!:biggrin_2557:
     
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