Whose Problem Is It?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 07shaker, Mar 10, 2016.

  1. 07shaker

    07shaker Light Load Member

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    Need some advice from you guys. This didn't happen to me but to someone that I know. Got two new trailer tires three months ago and today those wheels came loose and wobbled around enough to ruin one wheel, break off several studs, ruined the brake drum and shoe, and messed up the hub. Thankfully he was able to get it to a shop and get it fixed but the total bill was $1100. Did the guy that put the tires on three months ago not do his job right or is it just bad luck and something that should have been caught on a pre-trip? What would you do?
     
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  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    I'm guessing he did not retorque in 100-400 miles?
     
  4. Socal Xpress

    Socal Xpress Road Train Member

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    Was a torque wrench used to verify torque spec. ? Was it retorqued 50-100 miles later? Pretrip should have caught this. 3 months and how many miles in those months?
     
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  5. 07shaker

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    The trailer puts on 500-1000 miles a week so not a huge amount but would add up to 8-10k. Wheels were put on with a torque stick on the impact and we're not retorqued.
     
  6. Socal Xpress

    Socal Xpress Road Train Member

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    That's got to hurt but it could have been worse. Wheels could flown off and killed someone.
    But still a pretrip should have caught this sooner.

    I know tommorrow morning I am gonna spend sometime looking at all my lugs.
     
  7. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    its the guy that owns the trailer fault for not looking at them daily if it way pretriped right he would have caught it before all the damage happened
     
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  8. 1951 ford

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    After 3 months, I'd have to agree, it's on the driver. Take your pick, either for not doing a proper pre trip or for not rechecking the torque. Those torque sticks are a lazy tire guys way of installing tires anyway, IMO. Every vehicle I take in, whether it is my wife's car or the company trucks and trailers, get torqued 2 times by hand. First time to about 70% and second time to 100%. I stand and watch them do it. I have irritated several new tire guys, but after telling the store manager his guys can do it my way or he can take them back off and I'll go down the street, I get it done my way. I have used the same shop for 23 years now and it's understood my tires get done my way.
     
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  9. Cat sdp

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    I've always torqued with a wrench after the impact gun....

    But I don't get this retorque after 100 miles. Canada makes you do this .....

    To the op the wheels probably weren't tight to begin with.
     
  10. alien4fish

    alien4fish Light Load Member

    Its been three months, Its the Drivers fault. The driver has not been doing his pre-trips in the morning, tell your freind that he got lucky.....and got off cheap. If that set came off while he was running down he could've killed that family in the mini van next to him. get down on one knee and CHECK THOSE LUGS BY HAND it only takes 10 seconds In addition,He has NO ONE to blame but himself, simple as that. I GUUAURRUNTEEE you he will do his pre-trips now
     
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  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    If the wheels weren't tight to begin with. They would have fallen off right away or shortly there after. NOT 3 months down the road. Op sad 8 - 10k miles a month. That would be 24 - 30k miles later.

    I've had 2 or 3 lugs come off after tire work. And i've made the trip back to yard. Simply because there's no shops for trucks or nuts to be had along the trip. Luckily the others stayed tight. And i had a wrench big enough to check on them during the trip. Had one scale give me a verbal warning on inspection becuase of a loose nut so i pack a wrench.

    There's also the possibility of a vibration that caused the nuts to come loose. I've had that happen once, because of mud buildup inside the rim causing a tire out of balance sympton. But it was caught before the tires fell off.
     
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