Crude and water haulers, we need to have a serious discussion. There is a trend a few of us in the crude hauling industry have begun to notice. Note, I am fairly new to this industry so this may have been happening for a while. We have noticed crude haulers are being asked or expected to haul a HAZMAT load of crude for the same rate of pay as a driver who hauls a nonHAZMAT load of water.
For example, I see a crude hauling company running an add on CraigsList stating their crude haulers start out at $18/hr. I know for a fact in that same area of the country there is a company associated with the company running the Craigslist crude ad and they are looking for water haulers for $19-$20/hr.
Here is a question for you water haulers... Do you get paid on commission or by the hour?
I'm not putting down water haulers or saying you should make less, what I am getting at is this. Maybe I am a fool to keep hauling HAZMAT for lower wages and I should join you water haulers. A water hauler pulls what, maybe 125 barrels yet I am expected to pull 190 barrels of crude if I want to make a decent wage.
Here is a question for you crude haulers... At the company you work for, do you make more being paid by the hour or by commission?
Sure if you have no breakdowns, no rejects, find the well on your first try, and don't get delayed at the LACT, MAYBE you do make more working by commission. But I have been told don't go work for Sentinel, Blue Knight, Enterprise, Sunoco, or Frontier as all these outfits pay commission and the math works out to the pay rate of hauling water.
So why are crude haulers making less and less? Is there a greater demand for water haulers, are the sites water haulers visit more dangerous than the sites crude haulers visit, or is it possible that crude hauling companies are putting each other out of business? Inquiring minds want to know!
Why are HAZMAT Crude Haulers working for the same pay (or less) as Water Haulers
Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Rockdoctor, Apr 21, 2013.
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It'll be interesting to see the responses from those experienced in the subject as I am looking into moving to texas to look for work. I too have X endorsement along with T and TWIC card so I'd like to see if its more recommended to haul water rather than crude.
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Its a cut throat back stabbing business........now that you have some experience head to ND, spend a few weeks cullin out your job offers with free housing..........take home 100k+ a year......problem solved.Free housing + 100k take home for 4 or 5 years= do whatever you #### well please.........how easy is that ???
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If youre looking for THE LONG TERM...........stay in crude........get all the experience you can get...........demand will ALWAYS be there.
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Is it more work hauling crude then water?Tell your boss since you don't get paid more you wanna start hauling water.I have hazmat and some OTR companies are the same way,you don't get paid extra for hauling hazmat,go figure.
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Some companies pay more for hazmat and some dont.........gotta really scratch and dig to find good outfits........theyre there.
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There is a company out of Omaha that pays real good for hazmat.They dont require that endorsement but strongly encourages it.I think im going to try them again now that i have my BP under control.I don't know what the work detail is for water and crude haulers.
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I can pull a lease,turn around and haul fresh water to frac tanks,haul a load of crude to a rig and then clean up a spill.On average if I am pulling just leases I can pull from 8 to 14 a night depending on location.
Our tanks do not have to clean inside,just a quick fresh water rinse and we are good.
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I have no experience hauling crude or water but it has been my experience that the riskier the work, the lower the pay, and the less the respect because they presume you are stupid if you work for them rather than a better employer.
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