why arent we ALL commenting on detention pay policies

First you said:

Then you said:

Pick one.

 

Hurr Durr.

Government regulation of drivers, not of the companies. The companies have been allowed to swallow one another and cut each other's throats to such a degree that we the drivers benefit far less than we used to. As a whole, we are basically making what we made in 1980, give or take $10,000 per year.

Any other snarkiness?

 

I guess you think that owner-operators are exempt from all the regulations that we company drivers are subject to. After all, they own their own companies.

If you truly think that trucking companies are unregulated, then explain why DOT audits are conducted if for some reason other than to verify compliance with regulations.

The truth is that there is no space in the private sector that is free of regulation. Some segments (trucking, pharmaceuticals, finance) are more heavily regulated than others (tech, media) but all are subject to regulation. There is no such thing as "unchecked capitalism" in the United States of America.

 

We're talking about pay regulation, and how there is none in spite of the fact that there are so many other regulations on the trucking industry. When did I say that the trucking companies don't have any regulations? I just said they don't have any pricing regulations. Pay regulations. Something to the effect of a minimum wage regulation.

When I say that companies go unchecked, I just mean in financial terms. This is actually one of the most heavily regulated industries in the world now, and not a single regulation benefits the driver financially.

 

Detention

 

They will set a detention pay and break down pay, a maximum pay, not a minimum...and make you log ON DUTY from pre trip to post trip....

...and burn through 70 hours in 3 days.

“But Six, I will get paid for everything that I do!”

While making 1/3 less income. Sounds like a plan.

 

We can solve the detention pay by taking the loophole out of the HOS. Force drivers to log On Duty when loading and unloading. This will force the truck to stop at 70 hours. That a good because now all the companies and O/O that think sitting for free is a good idea, will have pay the price for that.

Right now people can sit for free and makeup that time by driving more miles. If we force driver to stop at a true 70 hour work week. Now the trucking companies and O/O and shippers and receivers have a big problem. They will be forced to solve that problem. They can load and unload faster. They can charge detention pay or get better rates per mile to cover the waiting time.

The free market will fix the problem. We just have stop people from giving their 70 hours away for free. Because they will cheat the system to benefit themselves later in the week. If people still want to sit for free, they can. They just can't cheat the HOS to benefit themselves or the trucking company or shipper and receivers. Guess what will happen. Sitting for free won't seem like good idea anymore !

 

Brant, the free market would stop the driver from crying about these things, the driver would not be making more money but less because the market would dictate lower rates and force carriers and owners to take steps to make sure they are competitive.

Six, I had a few who wanted to get paid for crap stops, their idea of detention pay was hourly at $40/hour, I told them the model is you get paid by the load and you decide what to take, so it is on them to deal with it.

 

I was talking with one of my farmers. They used to have their own trucks and haul their own milk along with other farms. He said the pay, detention pay, and lack of benefits isn't necessarily my boss's fault 100%. He said the co-op absolutely hammers the haulers during negotiation. They pay as little as they can. This limits what my boss can pay.

Milk hauling is not simply a negotiation between the farmer and the hauler. The co-op bills the farmer and the co-op pays the hauler. The co-op sets the price the farmer will pay. The co-op calls this entity that negociates the "hauling committee".

It's a bunch of bureaucratic b.s.

 

Waste of time.