Why can you only get Detroit engines in Freightliner and western star

Freightliner seems like the best option nowadays. Or get a Paccar or maxforce.

 

eh I'd stay away from Paccar with all they had to deal with in that Class action Lawsuit last year... Get a Detroit 60 series or a C-15 cat

 

Proprietary software and hardware. Would you simply give it to the competition?

The entire drive line has been developed from the ground up to work as a unit. Then some yahoo comes along and request a manual trans, or another brand of rears.

Through subscription, software updates can now be handled on the fly, wirelessly. Your unit is monitored 24/7. And alerts are sent to the truck to notify the customer.

My money is on Kenworth, Peterbuilt, and others, are simply not willing to pay the price for any of this.

You can’t charge $90 an hour to read codes if a customer comes in with all the data in hand. Neither can you ######## your way into charging ungodly amounts for chasing down fantom codes for days on end.

 

Didn't think anybody was suggesting they should just give it away to the competition. Why would you not sell your engine for the competition to put in their stuff, they would still be making money off it and everybody knows that's all they care. You're telling me you've never had freightliner charge you for ####### ####? And since when did a dealer, or any shop, only charge 90 an hour?

 

2005?

 

145$ an hour here. And paccar products can read the codes online for the last couple years.

 

Could be as simple as PACCAR has yet to ask Freightliner.
Could be as simple as Detroit is already just barely keeping up on production
Could even be Freightliner and PACCAR are working on something.
Could be....

Simple fact is there are both reasons for and against, and until someone sits on the board at either company there will be no way to know why either company is choosing what they do.

 

No, this is from Freightliner. They stopped after Daimler bought Detroit from Penske. 2002 was the last year midel year of Detroit engines that were installed in other trucks.

 

It is called vertical integration. One manufacturer makes the entire truck front to back. Just like Ford verses Chevrolet.

 

Right. It used to be that the manufacturers besides Mack and GMC didnt make components at all.