Why can't you secure your load?

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by CMoore2004, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. CMoore2004

    CMoore2004 Road Train Member

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    What you don't get is that the strap can hold just as much weight back. In fact, they're rated higher than my small chains. You don't need to turn you being wrong into an insult to me, just accept it and deal with it or bring something to the table showing it's illegal to use straps.
     
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  3. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Sorry didn't mean to insult you. Didn't think anyone was crazy enough to think straps would hold a 45k lb coil in place all by themselves.

    But I must say in your link it doesn't give the definition of "tiedown". You can interpret it any way you want!

    I may be wrong but I could swear I seen it somewhere?

    Do you run NY any? If so don't let the DOT see you using straps on any load of steel! It's was a $250 fine for using them on a load of bars....:biggrin_2551:. Don't know what it would be on a coil???
     
  4. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    What you don't get.....

    The rating on a strap is when its NEW

    The Tensile strength of straps degrades over time from many factors, two of the biggest are simple exposure to the elements.... sun, road salt, acids in rain and from road spray just to name a few..... and simple flexing, that would be need little high freq vibration a strap will get when you're going down the road for example.

    and finally a strap is prone to stretch.

    If you think a strap is ok on a coil of steel does that mean you'd also be ok with a couple of chains that weren't quite tightened enough??
     
  5. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    On a 45.000 lbs coil I would use 4 chains through the eye (8000 lbs rate per chain) one chain in front as a coil block or trip chain. 1 chain in back as a trip chain. 2 straps across the top rated at 8000 lbs each. Total 6 chains and 2 straps.
     
  6. schlepper004

    schlepper004 Light Load Member

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    LOL Notarps-
    please tell me that if asked boxers or briefs
    that you don't 'secure your load' with both!
     
  7. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Big items take a lot of securement.......:biggrin_25523:
     
  8. Wolfpack

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    What is a trip chain? Been flatbedding off and on for 14 years and have never heard of that term. Must be for a shotgun coil.
     
  9. tricky1

    tricky1 Bobtail Member

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    Trip chain is exactly what it sounds like, a chain you would trip over. From what I understand from past reading, it is a chain that is not really securing anything, but is bound across the deck.
     
  10. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    A trip chain is used to prevent forward or aft movement. On shotgun coils I use a block in between the coil and chain with a coil pad for protection. I also use trip chains on the front and rear of pallets.
     
  11. Joetro

    Joetro Road Train Member

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    I don't know that it's illegal on a Federal level, but it is most certainly illegal on some state levels. IMNSHO, it's also just plain common sense to use chains for coils. How many straps are you going to use for a 45,000# coil?
     
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