Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    OOIDA has failed at their attempts to stop them. They did get a court to stop the first attempt, but Congress stepped in. The new highway bill mandates that FMCSA come up with new rules, in the next year. Had a few Congressmen try to stop any funding, but that did not fly.
    I figure they will have a mandate for all trucks to have EOBRs, comlying with Part 395.16, in two to three years.
     
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  3. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Yea, it ain't a lot of fun. As to the rookies, I just remember we were like that once. There are some good ones out there, that are trying to learn and there are some sorry ones out there.
    Our world changed when the double nickle got dropped. Nobody had sympathy for us speeding anymore, even the cops. You can't get one to run front door anymore, like old Grandpa Bear and those like him did. Heck, you can't even get one to talk to you on the CB anymore. Gone are the days of a scaleman telling you to pull around back and bring in your log book. Now they walk out to you, sitting on the scale and have you hand it to them, on the spot. Can't sit there and catch it up any more.
    Yep, it has changed, some for the good, some for the bad, but it has changed and either we adapt or we're out. I don't plan on being out until I no longer pass my physical, or they pry my rotting corpse out of the seat.
     
  4. Meltom

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    Yeah so we got a letter like that from our insurance carrier and asked them why we should fire those drivers. We gave them our stance on CSA and where those drivers stood among our fleet and what type of retraining we were going to provide for them. Nobody lost their job. If your company doesn't suck they'll do the same, the insurance company will come off with a statement like "we will no longer insure these drivers", just ask them why and be prepared to argue for your drivers. They are your customer.

    PS, I can't recall our previous conversations.
     
  5. InTranzit

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    Yea, we knew when hammer down and run hard and when to drop it down and watch for them bears. That 55 never stopped anybody from running hard and we didn't have too many wrecks. Before all this interstate network was finished we still had allot of the two lame roads across the country and everybody knew where the bad spots were. Good old mom and pop truckstops served good food and good coffey and you gave $50 to the fuel boy to fill up your tanks and you walked in, the plate and coffey was on the table waiting for you. And they served beer if you wanted to have a couple before you crawled in to the bed for the night. Those were the days of trucking.
    All gone, nothing but a memory.
    Now we have rules and regulations and more rules and regulations to no end, and you see wrecks on straight ways flat dry and smooth roads and you wonder how in the world they managed to do that.
    Next thing you'll have is electronic gadgets with cameras and gps and ECM interface and satellite monitoring every truck out there 24/7 and I'll guaranty you that things and wrecks ain't gonna get any better.
     
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  6. snowwy

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    according to the govt. accidents are dropping.

    funny thing. when i was out here 12 years ago. i never once saw an upside down truck.

    now a days. i see one a week
     
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  7. G/MAN

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    I don't remember as many wrecks when I started, either. Usually, it was an accident that happened coming off a mountain with swinging beef or a tanker that let their truck get away from them going off a steep mountain in bad weather. I was talking to someone the other day telling them about stopping to fuel at a mom and pop truck stop and having someone come out and fill the tanks and then going inside for a free steak dinner. I don't think that they believed me. Truckers were appreciated and drivers took pride in their work.

    It seems that the more rules and regulations they impose the less safe the roads become, so they put more rules on us and the cycle starts again.
     
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  8. Tazz

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    Aren't the rose colored glasses of ancient memories great? Gee no wrecks, no traffic, never any tickets, playboy models serving you at the choke and puke8) Snowman and Fred just a toodling down an empty state 6 lane highway until of course they had to hiide from the big old bear and up pops a convenient convoy to hide them. Or was the rubber duck? Big ben?

    Of course back then we had oh 1/8 the trucks on the road 1/10 the traffic but those rosey old glasses work wonders.
     
  9. TheRoadWarrior

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    So here is my question. If your Elogs say times up and the closest truck stop is 50 or 60 miles away how does the elog log that. Is it a violation or say a wreck . How do u tell a machine something it does not understand. And does an elog start your day as soon as the truck moves
     
  10. Meltom

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    log it as you do it, so driving assuming you're loaded. If you are non compliant you are non compliant, ends up being better than paper because then you are non-compliant and false. As for when it starts, that depends on the settings, most companies have their settings to automatically change you driving after 2 miles.
     
  11. TheRoadWarrior

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    So the elog says its a violation is that right. What about the 2 hrs rule to get to a place due to traffic or weather? How does it compensate for that. And if your in violation then does that not put you at risk for job loss or dot shut down
     
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