Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. TheRoadWarrior

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    Gypsy truckers huh but I cant see how it effected any rate except for the trucker that took it for that price
     
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    An excellent example of why CSA was "intended" to be a "good thing". To take all the "potential blame" off the driver, and hold the carrier equally responsible! As usual, those Mega Carrier paid legal beagles found some loop holes (or created them within the rule they tried to make us believe they "didn't want") so most things (some things) didn't/never change!
     
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    Short sighted people never do see the bigger picture.
     
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    People who wear blinders don't see the whole picture either!

    That load that "had to be there" should have been ready to roll sooner, not on such a tight schedule that requires a driver to go outside of the rules. That is what is known in good business as proper planning and sticking to a production schedule...and if the production gets any kind of glitch, then there is this thing called "communication" and the means to reschedule the delivery!

    The "gypsy" just allowed the shipper to get out from under the true responsibility of scheduling...and thereby allowed another load to be "sold" at a lesser rate....a solo rate instead of a team rate for the allotted time!
     
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    You are correct, the gypsy did allow the improper rate to be applied. Perhaps something screwed up the schedule, like the shipper sent a load with plenty of time, but it ended up in the ditch, due to weather blowing the original truck off the road.
     
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    With your example; weather/accident, this has no bearing whatsoever on a timely schedule and/or a diminished rate from shipper to receiver. If and when a replacement shipment due to your example is required...it would again be a "rush" schedule for a team not a hot dog, dim-witted renegade, showboating, solo to accomplish the delivery. Also, the carrier would then be "obligated" to cover the lost load at a reduced rate (if only for the logical reason of maintaining a good PR with the customer/shipper) along with the fact some insurance would then be off-setting any loss from the first blown load and schedule.

    Now, if the receiver is the one screaming for the needed shipment...."the plant will have to shut down if that isn't here by xxxx time"...is again a poor business practice by allowing the required product being shipped/delivered that this plant so desperately needs to continue, when some better planning and scheduling of this product should have been considered as forethought, not after thought!
     
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    Autocar whats the deal with u. You got a problem with me cause it seems u do.
     
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    The deal is that things happen, shipments get delayed or diverted, and then a company has to repower a load, it isn't always that you can get a team to take things on short order. A load not ready on time leads to running tired to get it there, even late, because you can't just go back to sleep when you were ready to run. Even an Elog won't prevent that.


    I used to do lots of relays to the east coast, now I do Chicago and hardly ever get more than 50 miles into Indiana. Others are doing the relays now, and that doesn't make me feel a bit bad.

    As far as driver pay rates climbing after Elogs are mandated, I am not holding my breath, I see the other side, increasing costs may erode driver pay farther.
     
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    I have a problem with anyone that endorses illegal activity. Not personal at all, as I have no idea who you are, nor do I care.
     
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    Over the life of a truck(or a couple of them) all of these systems are pennies per mile, or at least the ones I have seen. It can also assist in reducing some costs like IFTA tracking and record keeping. At worst I see them as a push.