Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Just out of curiosity how many miles are you turning per week?

 

what if i may ask is an outlaw i hear the term a lot..

 

So you are saying soley for driving a truck that uses E-logs that I should be prosecuted to a greater extent than if i used paper.

Your argument is so far off in left field i will move you all the way over to right.

Two drivers both back from vacation, start work their first day out. Do their pre-trip and head out of their yard to go get loaded. They are cruising down the highway and around the corner is a traffic jam that they both don't see until it is too late and rear end a car. You are saying that because the driver uses e-logs he is more at fault then if he used paper, however he just came back from vacation so you have not ability to say that he was driving tired because he can't steal an extra 10 minutes here and there or run how he wants to.

E-logs are coming, it may not be in 2014 but they will be in your truck sooner that I imagine you would like. I would suggest you start finidng yourself a new line of work if you are unwilling to change, trucking has existed for a long time as a place for people to work as they please. That no longer exists. It is either time to adapt or get out.

 

Outlaw trucker is one that completely disregards the rules/regulations/speed limits.....just does as he/she pleases, never mind anything else.

Show me any law, rule/regulation, that has stiffer penalties for log issues on e-logs than a paper log!

Your counter argument is actually the one that is playing rugby when the rest of the field is playing chess.

Equal and accurate logging to this point, and either one (or both) could have waited 30 minutes to even start, or began 30 minutes sooner...what's your point so far...nothing!

Both drivers are equally negligent and obviously not paying attention to the road ahead. If they are running together, the following driver is following too close to react to the oncoming situation. And both are traveling at a rate of speed that is excessive for the curve of the road evidently. BAD EXAMPLE, but we can use it for a safety example.

That is your interpretation...which is way off of what has been said, but it is what you want to hear and use even though it isn't part of the equation.

I'm desperately trying to tie this in with the example/scenario....but it just won't fit in to the discussion.....they call that obfuscation, a twisting of the argument/example to take the discussion away from the facts.

You do realize you are speaking to an office person, not a driver....right?

 

That is my point. I forgot to quote the post I was replying to. See below

Equally negligent is the only point I was trying to make. My example was obsured as the point I was agruing against was obsured as well.

I have seen the results of a full audit on paper logs, it isn't easy to hide anything any more. For an operation like mine, there are too many pieces of paper that are time stamped I couldn't get away with falsifying anything if I wanted to, therefore I have no fear of the e-log (however I will stick with paper logs for now as I have a 3 year supply of them in my office).

I will leave it at that. This is an argument that will never be resolved because different operations have different needs.

 

Outlaw trucker is one that completely disregards the rules/regulations/speed limits.....just does as he/she pleases, never mind anything else. well that was trucking back then, majority of drivers did that 35 and more years ago....its the way it was,but we were safer we didnt hit everything in sight like the drivers do today,cops respected us,cars loved us to run front door unless greyhound or Trailways were around

 

Ok I get it. You are enjoying working like a paid professional in a truck with EOBRs and you can't be forced (or whorish enough) to give away massive amounts of work and take all the risks like a moron as the Paper guys so you are going to stomp your feet till everyone is on Electronic.

There, I fixed that for ya...

 

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Does it really matter???? I do enough miles. Some weeks I do alot more then others. It all depends on were we are pulling from. When we start pulling from the western part of the state then it is about 701 miles round trip for me and WE have to log it OTR since it stretches beyond any exemption milage rules we have in ND. There is no preplanning the trip since it is usually dropped on us the evening before we have to start running that way.

On our 500 and less mile days, we like to take our time. Leave early, drive like a human being take a lunch etc. If I was on EOBR then I would have to forget doing these trips like that because I would run out of my 11 and 14. It would be run run run, piss on the side of the road, make a sandwich on the passenger seat as I am driving. Forget that noise. Never mind this new mandatory break that we are going to have to take. It would not bother me if the break stopped the 14.

When the snow starts flying up here then road speeds drop which means more time on the road with less miles. It is either that or spend alot of time waiting, with the truck parked in a ditch, for the hook truck to come. Sorry not for me. 7 years with this company and over 10 years behind the wheel of a truck and have yet to park the truck in a ditch. Dam the EOBRs. I am going to drive the way I want and get the job done and still get home to my own bed at night.

 

bent over and happy, huh?