Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

and what do you call a man who submits to every intrusion into his freedom and ability to complete his job, that has taken his job and turned it into modern day slavery, that actually relishes being told when to work, when he cannot work, even though he is able and ready? that no matter what law comes out, he smiles, grins and accepts it without question

that as he now has to work harder to make less money, he brags to other drivers, its either submit to the HOS monster or be ######

is this the way that George Washington and others acted when King George enacted laws that abridged their freedoms?

and yes, that was about money, just like this is about money

it was about a stamp tax and a tea tax, this is about your very livelihood, and you are rushing to bend over

 

It does since you say that guys on eLogs can't turn enough miles so they want an even playing field. Turns out that is not the case.

 

Just gonna say this is a bit of a stretch. Regulations in trucking (or any other industry for that matter) do not compare to slavery.

 

Good thing you covered that.. I thought it was only me...

 

You have talked about this "working for free" and "give the boss another free one" but while your sitting at a truckstop, on the side of the road, or at a shipper/reciever and I am sitting at the house now tell me WHO is working for free? I got home to my wife and kids and done made my money while your the one sitting somewhere besides home "WORKIN FOR FREE OR GIVIN YOUR BOSS ANOTHER FREE ONE". I am an owner op and this is a profession I will be staying in for a long while. The "wanna be truckers" that are willing to roll over and bow down to these e-logs and eobrs are the ones that will not be in this profession for long. So you and the rest go ahead and keep givin the boss the free one while I am sitting down the road a little further...

 

In my case mileage is nothing. I run on percentage and there for the more money I haul equals the more $ in my pocket at the end of the week. So your elog guys that some way are running 700 miles in a day(bullcrap) just means they are making the roads unsafer because now they are running for longer streches without pulling over for a break. I can take my sweat time and pull over every 2 hours and sit and eat a meal of 30 minutes a pop and at the end of the day I am the safer driver and I made more money while being safer. The point of E-logs and EOBRS are for safety on the roads by CMVs but if you want to say they just make you more compliant then what good is being compliant if you are more likely to cause an accident?

 

No doubt, I'm not about to flaunt a 700 mile/day driver at you. I'm just curious to the number of mlies the guy who says that eLog drivers can't make money/don't work hard enough. It's not about a level playing field, it's about doing it within the established regulations. We switched an entire company from paper to eLogs, we had some dudes running near 5K/week on paper. After 2 months on eLogs we were down an average of 75 miles/driver/week. Now were positive miles/driver/week. It's about planning, our safety scores are dropping and our drivers feel more rested than they did in the past (their claim, not mine). We don't look at any violation as the end of the world, we understand that sometimes stuff happens. We do however track violations and if you develop a pattern we'll address it.

 

if drivers are more rested using elogs, then they should be using elogs, because they were a danger to themselves and everyone else

i have heard drivers say elogs make them MORE tired (their words, not mine)

this back and forth thing is really for the birds

if you eloggers think running by a computer is better for you, then you really were allowing your dispatcher to drive your truck for you before, i never let anyone drive my truck but me, not dispatchers, not DOT, not shippers, not receivers, no one but me

this is what i am not understanding, before elogs, you knew the regulations, you disregarded them, and now you are bragging about how running the way you were supposed to run is so much better for you

does that actually make any sense?

 

There were two reasons given for forcing the entire industry to spend their money installing Elogs in their trucks. One was having a level playing field. The other was safety. Neither have proven to be valid. Their is absolutely NO proof that Elogs have made the roads safer or made a more level playing field. Major carriers apparently don't think that they can compete with small carriers so they came up with the idea of forcing them to spend money on Elogs that they don't need or want. I would bet that most of the carriers who have accidents are the larger carriers.

 

G/MAN I agree 100%. Now they are going to say the reason there are more accidents with the larger carriers in because they have more trucks on their fleet even though what it boils down to is the fact that the "smaller guys" are careful since they don't want the insurance claim or the negatives that come with being unsafe.. I would be willing to say if you took 10 small guys(owner ops) and 10(bigger carrier drivers) and looked them over the 10(smaller guys) would have a better and safer driving record.