Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    i was taught that "no responsibility" is away from the truck, the load, etc (ie, home, movies, dinner)

    this is why many companies do not want you to leave the truck under a load, sleeper is not "no responsibility" but rest
     
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    I know his employer used to give an off duty autorization card, well technically it was on the front of his log book. I'm guessing it's still there.
     
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    The one on front of the log book is for meal breaks being logged as off duty. Up to 120 minutes.

    I've never had my logs questioned once I started logging correctly after my first 3 months.

    I used to go off duty for fueling and used to go off duty at customers. After having a talk with safety about it I was told fueling is on duty, so I log on duty now. (I was new lol)

    Also, they told me sleeper birth is fine at customers as long as I am IN the sleeper.

    Ethan
     
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    wow really safety talked to you about that, not your DM? Things must be a'changin'
     
  5. aiwiron

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    I have a idea, we take away all logs and just make it legal to execute drivers if they go over hours.
     
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    Sweet, as I state earlier I'm an executioner's apprentice. Will I have to travel now?
     
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    In our logbooks it is released from responsibility up to 10 hours, unless hauling 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3 explosives. Inside front cover.
     
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    No, when I was in phase 3 training my fleet manager told me to call safety. He talked to me about fueling on duty, but safety went over all my logs and picked out things I needed to start doing differently. When I logged off duty at a customer they asked where I was, told them I was in the sleeper. So they told me to log sleeper, not off duty.

    Ethan
     
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    Well,,,,,,,,

    The safety department goes to the front of the line, after all the enforcement officers should be held accountable.

    I like how Vlad the impaler operated, leadership by example.
     
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    1. (7) Can time spent waiting to be loaded or unloaded count toward the break requirement?
    2. Time spent waiting to be loaded or unloaded is on duty unless the driver has been released from all responsibility for the truck. Except for drivers attending loads of certain explosives, on-duty time cannot be considered as a break.
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/qanda.aspx