Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Those comment's were really for Tazz's benefit. US Constitution/Bill of Rights is the fairy tale.

    Oh I agree 100% they will never get my phone just handed over to them either. Lots of police out there on power trips doing illegal things. They intimidate people. Most people will hand over their cell phone just to avoid any hassel. I won't. Get a warrant, go through the process, whatever, I have all day to deal with it if I have to, makes no difference to me. It's the principle of it. I don't live in East Germany or the Soviet Union and they have no right to ask for my phone just out of the blue.
     
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  3. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Need probable cause for a warrant, too.

    07-379: Rat's only sitting on that bike. He's not riding it. The pic is creatively cropped so you don't see the kickstand down, but look at the angle it's sitting at and look at the non blurred background. It's not in motion.

    Beside that, I suspect the "safety" issue with regard to helmets was the extra padding that Bell Helmet Company placed on some politicians' palms in order to boost their earnings.
     
  4. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Maybe it was that 1970's ad.

    "If you got a $5 head, might as well wear a $5 helmet."

    That $5 helmet, was a ball cap.

    I'm a big helmet advocate. But, I wouldn't want a law passed requiring anyone to wear one.
     
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  5. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    Cops will only do what you allow them to do. You don't need to be nasty or smart with them, but you should know your rights. Most of the time they will treat you as well as you treat them. I will always be respectful, but will not allow any dot or cop to run over me or push my rights aside.
     
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  6. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    Did you ever hear of an attorney asking for phone records when 2 4 wheelers are involved in an accident

    Yes!! happens all the time in an attempt to lay blame or track the path of one of the vehicles..... ( speed vs time with tower A and then tower B ). Also download the ecm on the later cars ........

    FYI: To prevent tracking you MUST turn off your cell phone. The phone continuously reports to the local tower it's ESN so a call can be routed to it. Once off the messages will be held on the providers server until the phone reports to a tower seeking an update.
     
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    Meltom Road Train Member

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  9. Theophilus

    Theophilus Bobtail Member

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    I believe your missing the point. Without EOBR's shippers and receivers and dispatchers are not going to care about the law. Without EOBR's and if your using paper logs, the dispatcher is not going to care that it took you 7 hours to get loaded. Dispatch will expect you to tear up your log and show yourself starting your day later then it actually started. Without EOBR's these people will never change. They will expect you to make it work. EOBR's is the only thing that will make everyone get on the same page. Dispatchers can longer tell you to "make it work" with EOBR's. Shippers will no longer be able to just dilly dally around taking their time and put the stress of an on-time delivery on the drivers shoulders. With EOBR's, shippers will load you within a certain time frame or their product will not be delivered on-time, period. With EOBR's what is dispatch going to say to you when you say, OK I'm loaded now and I have 3 hours left on my 14 and I have 400 miles to go. With paper logs, you would be expected to just tear that page out of your log book and "make things work".

    Another thing that has to be understood those of you using paper logs books and cheating is that there are many ways available to track a truck. Your position is being tracked at many points weather you realize it or not. So the thing is if your one of drivers "who make things work" when it comes to your paper logs, well at some point your going to get in trouble when things don't line up so good at a DOT inspection.
     
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  10. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    I can understand your point of view, and your thought process.

    One (actually two) glitch(es)...the shippers and receivers have no reason to care. The pick-up/delivery schedule isn't accomplished by either party. It is the company planning the overall dispatch, by timing the "appointed" time for pick-up, total miles and travel time calculated (commonly at 49.4 mph) allowing the mandated 10 hour break for each 500 mile section, then "arranging" with the receiver for the dock "appointment". Neither shippers or receivers give one hoot about the time it takes to either fill or empty that trailer...they have no "dog in that race"...FMCSA does not give them any legal restrictions or penalties for the work they "perform"!
     
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  11. Theophilus

    Theophilus Bobtail Member

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    You see my point as EOBR's will make them give a hoot.

    I know from the use of EOBR's I have seen a change in how quickly I have been loaded and offloaded. These changes have led to me spending less time in a dock and more time driving. Thus my paychecks are larger and I'm more relaxed and more productive as a result.
     
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