Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by snowbird_89, Jun 10, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

    4,343
    593
    Jul 29, 2014
    Netherlands
    0
    A bit more. In the Netherlands there is no weight limit on a front axle as such. The weight limit on a single axle (front or rear) is 10,000kg/22,000lb if it is non-driven, for a driven axle it is 11,500kg/25,000lb.
    Furthermore heavy European trucks often have two steerable axles, two at the front, or one at the front and the first axle at the rear. With heavy dumper trucks (etc.) the last rear axle(s) may also be steerable, not as with normal steering, but the whole axle may turn a bit.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

    3,314
    2,441
    Jun 9, 2010
    Home
    0
    This isn't exactly true, gross weight here is 80,000 lbs, 34,000 on tandems, so on a 5 axle set up, it would be, 12,000 steers, 34,000 on drives, 34,000 on trailer tandems, totaling 80,000, but front axle go by a rating in most states, ranging from 500 lbs to 700 lbs per inch of tire, there is only a couple of states that only allow 12,000, 4 I think
     
  4. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

    7,604
    1,642
    Oct 11, 2010
    Borispol, Ukraine
    0
    MBE 900 family (OM 904, OM 924, OM 906 and OM 926) are very sucsessfull engines.

    Unfortunatly PLD technology cant meet Euro-6 and EPA2012 so they will not be developed and be discontinued soon
     
  5. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

    20,972
    73,077
    Apr 8, 2012
    Orion's Belt
    0
    [video=youtube_share;AK19dfYDqWQ]http://youtu.be/AK19dfYDqWQ[/video]



    kinda neat euro heavy hauler.
     
  6. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

    7,604
    1,642
    Oct 11, 2010
    Borispol, Ukraine
    0
    we use to call too sufisticated and too technologically advanced trucks -"woe from wit"

    who used to read russian literature understands what I try to say
     
  7. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

    7,604
    1,642
    Oct 11, 2010
    Borispol, Ukraine
    0
    btw, really the only reason to redesigne Actros and Volvo FH is new emission standard.

    EPA2014 and Euro-6 engines require more air for cooling, and it is not all, aftertreatment system reqire more room, and previous actros engine was v-designed. New is six in line, really Actros MP-IV engines are the same like DD11, DD13, DD-15 and DD-16 but with Mercedes Logo.
     
  8. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

    5,990
    6,740
    Sep 14, 2008
    0
    Hm maybe not today, but in past it was opposite , until late 60s our trucks were behind americans , than at end of 60s there was german idea to introduce minimum power of 8hp/ton and than first trucks stronger than 300hp appeared , also longer routes , and routes to middle east and asia open need for stronger engines , who knows maybe ww2 slow down progress here, but in same hand it could make progress faster who knows

    scania itself would probably not exist if they did not have collaboration with american manufacturers


    after economic crash in 1929 , truck sales in sweden drop significantly, scania had many different products and expensive production as most were made in small series or individual , so no big serial production

    scania studied american twin coach bus in 1929 but it was very complex. scania opt for simpler version and first were sold in 1932 , those were very popular , because they allowed much more passengers,as it moves center of gravity more to front axles( with strict weight laws from that time), and it was most advanced bus back than in europe,

    EDIT: this help scania to recover from problems, and buses become main product than




    also from this time scania started to make their first cabover trucks called bulldog

    latter scania have some collaboration with mack , scania used mack differentials on certain models until 1974-1976 i dont remember , scania have sold mack direct injection in 1949, latter scania engineers were sent often in USA to study mack products , one mack bus was imported in sweden for testing, scania get right to sold it worldwide except north america, scania adopt it to metric system and for its components, this was first bus with selfsupporting bus bodywork in europe, scania latter developed smaller versions ....


    after ww2 scania had many models, high development costs, and expensive production , they could not compete with volvo who made small light trucks in serial mass production, and scania was seeking for more money sources ,

    ....and scania become dealer in 40s and 50s for willys overland jeep , but they quit this ,because of poor quality ( for scania standards) as scania image was harm in reputation due to jeep products

    than scania become dealer for VW that bring them a lot of money , and actually saved them from one many possible bankrupt

    than scania stared to export more , and more and soon exported products become majority .....
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2015
    king Q Thanks this.
  9. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

    4,343
    593
    Jul 29, 2014
    Netherlands
    0
    The other way around is more accurate. Daimler Benz designed these engines to be used all over the world, Europe, the America's, Africa, Asia. They were first used in the US as Detroit Diesel.
     
  10. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

    4,343
    593
    Jul 29, 2014
    Netherlands
    0
    Sure, but that is 50 years ago, and that was just 20 years after WWII. Those were very different times, and there were dozens of truck factories in Europe. Remember Hanomag, Büssing, Henschel, Krupp, Magirus Deutz, Wartburg, Leyland, Scammel, Foden, Ford, Bedford, Berliet, Unic, Fiat, Pegaso, Saurer, Kromhout, and so on? Some of them had rather unique features, Magirus Deutz with their air cooled diesels (they sold a few thousand of them to Siberia) , Büssing with their underfloor diesels etc. The famous London Routemaster doubledecker busses for instance were extremely modern. They were build like an aircraft (a bomber more precisely), and had no chassis.

    And sure, I remember seeing very big Mack trucks delivering paving bricks, I suppose at the time there were no European trucks of that size. But that's all in the past.
     
  11. reefer101

    reefer101 Medium Load Member

    444
    246
    Oct 24, 2014
    0
    there is no epa2014. only epa2010
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  • Thread Status:
    Not open for further replies.