Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Cat sdp

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    They are outta their minds with the price

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  3. Oxbow

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    I would have guessed around 300K US, oil business must be good!
     
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    An Australian Built C510 would be in excess of $400K I would think..
     
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    Should please the Ceasar , Alffie has past. They could not afford to let him live . If he was allowed to leave , and be treated else where (countries offered for free) it would put a spotlight on substandard care. Now read some books about freedom, it is clear now that you EU guys do not know what it is . When the government can control whether or not you child lives. Or better orders your child to die. 23 month old was to dangerous to live .
    Enjoy your metric system .
     
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    Alfie had been in a semi-vegetative state and scans of his brain had shown that almost all of it had been destroyed. Judges had agreed with doctors that further treatment would be futile and there was no hope of him getting better.

    So freedom is keeping a near braindead child alive.
    That kind off freedom you can keep.

    Ps you might start by learning to spell his name correctly.
     
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    is there anyone who have seen new scania trucks in USA?
    as much i have heard navistar has 34 of them on test.
    it is kind of ironic that vw is going to bring one of best engines into crap truck. especially interesting would be to see about engine brake. scania philosophy says engine is used to pull not to brake and their engines are only one without engine brake, just exhaust brake which is required by law. i am 95% sure that they will not offer any kind of engine brake, but instead offer scania gearbox and retarder in one package
     
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    That Scania retarder is a (very) Good thing though...
     
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    While I agree with your sentiment, freedom is being allowed to seek whatever treatment you and your doctor would like. A judge has no more knowledge in regard to healthcare than I do. It should never be the government's place to decide who should get what treatment, nor whether or not one can seek to take their child to another doctor or hospital as long as it doesn't harm the child.
     
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    And in what defines harm you and me differ off opinion.
    But that is ok,i have no problem with that.
    One could argue that you are as much limited in your freedom as you have only the right to die from natural causes.
    Anything else is illegal.
     
  11. Oxbow

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    Precisely; your opinion and mine do not matter, nor does a judges.

    If I wanted to end my life I could do it, but it won't be sanctioned by others. The symantics of this topic have tremendous arguments on both sides, and I see valid points on both, but this is different than Alfie. Alfie did not make the choice.
     
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