Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

The arguments against the gliders are very simple:

1. It is a way to avoid paying tax for a new truck, although a glider in fact is a new truck, even if some parts are refurbished to a status equal to new.
   
2. Using a glider is also a way to dodge the emission regulations for truck engines.

Did the EPA over reach? No, congress wants clean trucks on the road, and the gliders are far from clean. Allowing them on the road is not in the spirit of the law, so the EPA rightfully tried to close that loophole.

You will find these arguments in all articles and discussions on this subject.

 

The EPA cannot just make up rules as they wish. Congress has oversight here. If gliders are to be banned it will be because elected members of Congress have decided to do so. An unelected beauracracy can't just run roughshod over the people in NA like they do in Europe. That's a very backwards way of governing.

Consensus is the absence of leadership. It's always a good thing when the rest of the world is upset with how and what we as Americans are doing. It means we are on our own path. The right one.

 

True, but part of it is due to the truck, and not only the engine.
Better transmissions/gearshift logic, better drivetrain, better aerodynamics, etc.

And situation in North America is somewhat different from Europe.

In North America the engines reached very high efficiency in late 90's/very early 2000's. After the introduction of EGR (and Low-Nox files) it went downhill pretty fast, introduction of DPF did not help either.
Euro-III engines ran with too much retarded injection timing for good fuel efficiency. That's also the reason why a tuned Euro-III engine (more advanced timing) could do much better than stock engine.

Even now, the tuning for North America and Europe for basically the same engine is different.
Generally the NA engines runs higher EGR rates / less DEF than the european versions, which gives the EU engine a slightly better fuel efficiency, but also a higher DEF consumption (if all other things are equal)

 

The arguments for gliders are even simpler:

• No Federal Excise Tax
• Lower cost per mile (includes equal or better fuel mileage)
• Less downtime
• Less environmental impact due to the following:

1. No use of natural resources to create emission systems
2. No use of natural resources to create DEF
3. No use of natural resources in manufacturing DEF containers
4. No tanker trucks hauling DEF
5. No electricity used to pump DEF
6. No tires created for the trucks hauling DEF
7. No fuel consumed by trucks hauling DEF
8. Less fuel tankers needed, and the associated impact required to build a tanker/truck

I could go on, and who knows how the final calculation would end up, but the argument remains especially considering the use of new technology in regard to the items that KVB mentioned on new components.

Your "clean" trucks may be dirtier than our "dirty" trucks if the whole picture is looked at in an honest fashion.

 

What is exact number of specific consumption

 

Long answer......later.

Short answer.
If the S60 is the go to engine for gliders . ....why did Schneider sell his so early in their usefull life?

 

Don't know where you got your knowledge about Europe, but you're dead wrong there. Let me explain to you how it works in the Netherlands. Please keep in mind we have a monarchy, which doesn't mean that the king is actually governing, even if he is head of state, and formally the head of government. The actual governing is done by the ministers and parliament.

We have laws that are used as a framework. The most important parts are in the law, details that may be subject to regular changes are governed by Royal Decree. This is how it's done:

1. A ministry (department in the US) writes a draft proposal for a Royal Decree.
2. The draft is discussed in a meeting of all government ministers.
3. It is send to the advisory department of the Council of State.
4. The draft is published on the website of the government, and people and organisations are invited to comment of the draft.
5. The final version of the draft becomes a Royal Decree. It is published by the minister of justice, and signed by the king and the minister in charge.

Of course in steps 1 - 4, the draft may be changed and resubmitted. Parliament is not involved, but if a member of parliament has something to say about the draft, he or she can bring it up in parliament.

So, no unelected bureaucracy, but minsters who are controlled by parliament.

Well, we are also upset about what North Korea is doing, and Syria, and Russia, and Venezuela, and so on. In your way of reasoning they must be doing the right thing as well.

 

As soon as you have actual figures to support this ridiculous statement, please let me know.

 

One word. Carb.

Its actually more complex than that, but that is the biggest factor. Also they didnt get rid of the gliders any sooner than they get rid of their regular new trucks. Many large fleets here trade in or sell trucks as soon as 400k miles.

 

I don't have access to the data any more, it was long time ago, and I changed jobs a few times since.
But I remember measuring 184-185 g/kW/h.

That was using european diesel, on a calibrated dyno, using calibrated calibrated flow meters, climate controlled dyno room.
The 184-185 was at full torque over a range of about 300 rpm (not absolutely sure about the 300 rpm range, memory is fading, getting too old).