Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. taxihacker66

    taxihacker66 Road Train Member

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    From what I know of comrade PUTIN he might not be able to afford the TOLL charge.
     
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  3. mhyn

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    wow ... would be cheaper to use airplanes.
    as far as I know that nato base (name was Manas) was closed in 2014 after pro-Russian group became government of Kyrgystan.
     
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    yeah man toll is expensive* lol . After European sanction Putin said any European who wants to sell his products in Russia or use our roads must first s***k our d**ks to get permission.
    putin is crazy man but he has brain. he is a chase player )))) you see what he does in Syria? he will keep war going on there so muslims can/will fly to Europe. Time bomb is already setup for Europe. After 20-30 years Europe will be mostly muslim populated area. )))) white Christian Europeans will be minority there )))
     
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    dont think , but it would be far faster...

    dont know for that, but many companies here turn to Russia and past SSSR countries as there is less problems with laws, and better money

    Most of them dont go too far, because it is more difficult to find back loads, few groups drive to Čeljabinsk , other groups to Novosibirsk


    One company drive regularly to Ulanbatar in Mongolia
     
  6. taxihacker66

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    Unfortunately the crazy ones are way to cunning .
     
  7. mhyn

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    Trump is some kind of crazy too and I'd like to see him in White House.
     
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    Probably a daf...:)

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    That remains to be seen. Yves Provencher, director of FPInnovations’ Performance Innovation Transport group, imported two European Volvo tractors to test them in Canada. He was allowed to test them for 18 months. I think the trucks were classified as 'experimental', because they were not legal in Canada. This is what he had to say about European cabovers:
    So you could be very wrong.

    The Argosy was the last cabover that was produced in the US if I'm not mistaken. In fact it's still being produced in RHD for Australia and New Zealand. And you can still get a new cabover Argosy in the US too, but with a bit of trouble. You can buy such an Argosy as a 'glider'. A glider is an airplane without an engine, and this is a truck without a drivetrain, so no engine, gearbox or rear axles. You have to get those from an old donor truck. Or the factory can supply a rebuild old engine, gearbox etc. So in fact you get an almost brand new truck based on old technology. And why is that done? To save 12% FET tax, because you're using an old rebuild drivetrain, the truck is considered to be an old truck, and the FET tax has already been paid for it.

    When a truck dealer advertised with this rather unknown possibility, his phone didn't stop ringing, so I guess there are quite a number of cabover enthusiasts out there in NA.

    Seems to me as if NA truckers are mostly concerned with the looks of their trucks. When I compared a Mack dumper with a Dutch Ginaf dumper, I got the comment that the Mack looked manly, and the Ginaf looked gayish, so the Mack was the best truck. Not a word about technical aspects, usability, maneuverability, nothing, just the looks. The same happened when I asked about the enormous gap between the cab of the tractor and the trailer. It was all about looks, wasting fuel because of poor aerodynamics was no issue. I suppose the length of the tractor frame has to compensate for the lack of length of the trucker's member?

    In Australia the same issue. Two technically comparable trucks, the T600 and the T904. The T600 aerodynamic, fuel saving, the T904 a much more 'manly' looking truck, but an aerodynamic nightmare.

    European truckers tend to look more at the technical qualities of the truck. Maneuverability, comfort, fuel consumption, good brakes, automatic gearbox, and so on. It should look good too of course, but for them it's the tool they have to work with.

    You can not use NA tractors in Europe, but you can use European tractors in NA. Inner city traffic, winding mountain roads, there are quite a lot of situations in NA where European semi's (incl. the trailers!) would do better then NA semi's. And I do think Paccar (DAF), Volvo, Mercedes (Freightliner) should experiment with EU type of trucks. It wouldn't surprise me if NA truckers would like them too after the first shock. The Scania longline type of tractor would be a perfect truck for long distance work.
     
  10. 98989

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    i dont think so ,

    if you carefully take a look at front axle you will see it is ZF axle often called Europa axle, that is most popular axle in world, than it was used by Mercedes and MAN, from early 90s Mercedes bought rights to built them, Man developed their own axles ( which are crap btw)

    those axles are so popular they put them on any truck brand, they cut here old trucks like ones 40year old and sent rear bogies and frame to middle east and africa and put in combination with everything , even on trailers as this axle can withstand 44000lbs easy , rear axles are same gen too, but it is fitted with twin 14.00r20 wheels so you cant see hub ,

    if you look carefully at cab step, bumper and cab corner you will notice it is mercedes NG, it is most probably version before 1986 as than new hub appeared , i would say model is 2636A or AK
     
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    Dear Caesar
    lets do this way. you buy a ticket from Amsterdam to Los Angeles and I provide you housing and meals. come with me road trip to Midwest or southeast and back. See the performance of trucks, jobs, wide enough cities, roads, breakdowns and repair bills with downtimes. I hope after that you will not promote your trucks to Americans )))) Americans love and miss American made pre emission engines, love manual transmissions, hate anything on truck that has ecu/ecm... this is American life and people like it.
     
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