Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Snow Monster

    Snow Monster Medium Load Member

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    Well......, if a Canadian truck travels to the USA, they have to obey the law of the land.
    We don't follow the US, more like comply.

    In Canada it's more about how much rubber is on the road than axle weights and spacing, and with the exception of Michigan and a couple other states, our gross weights have always been a little higher.
    in the 70's and 80's, to load a legal 5 axle truck and trailer for the US your axle weights would be 34,000 lbs on the tandems and 12,000 lbs on the steering.
    In Canada the weights were 35,000 lbs on a tandem and 10,000 lbs on the steering, with a max of 12,000 lbs if you had the proper tires.
    We also had a 2000 lb snow allowance that technically allowed us to gross 82,000 lbs during winter months.

    There's really no advantage to having unnecessary weight on the steering axle and never has been.
    If you travel to Ontario, Quebec or Alberta you'll see plenty of trucks running around with 20,000 lb steering axles and fat tires.

    Currently, from coast to coast in Canada with 8 axles you can gross 62.5 or 63.5 tonnes.
    With a tandem truck and tri axle trailer we gross between 47 and 48 tonnes.

    Tell you what, if this is following in the footsteps of the USA and not Australia, then I'm delusional.





     
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  3. Caesar

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    That's all very nice, but you forgot to mention that modern oils cling much better to the metal of the shaft and the bearing. In other words, a modern lower viscosity oil offers the same protection against metal-on-metal contact as a conventional oil with a higher viscosity.
     
  4. spsauerland

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    The acronym that was being thrown around when CK-4 and FA-4 came out was HTHS( high temperature, high shear). The lower number increased MPG, but decreased protection. In oil we use, the 15W40 is rated @ 4.26 cP. The 10W30 version is 3.6 cP. We chose engine protection over very slight MPG possible gain.
     
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    Nice trip..... would make me a nice vacation.....


    Did you stop by and see Caesar ......
     
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    Trucking euro style...(I guess)

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    P.S. where is CZ.... the Czech Republic ?
     
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    98989 Road Train Member

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    Yes they buy lot of low mb trucks.

    They sale about 2000mb trucks per year on 8million people population country.
     
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    Holland is such an important and big country, that out of over 4000 km, about 200 km are in Holland. 5%. You don't need to do 45 min break (after each 4,5 hrs of drive) to drive from one part of Holland to another.
     
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    cP or centipoise, is the SI unit for dynamic viscosity, and obviously a SAE 30 oil has a lower dynamic viscosity as a SAE 40 oil, the higher the SAE number, the higher the dynamic viscosity.

    However, what I was referring to has nothing to do with the viscosity. Modern oils cling to the metal, it is more difficult to get the oil of the metal. Some engine oil producers even use names for their products that suggest the oil is magnetic. That is not the case of course, but it does point to what I just described.
     
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  10. spsauerland

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    Is it that the oil "clings" or is it maybe the finish "smoothness" of engine rotating components has gotten better hence why older engines are not recommended to use lower HTHS oils. This article from Valvoline is interesting and second to last sentence describes my fleets philosophy. Diesel Engine 201 – Choosing the Right Engine Oil: Let’s Talk Viscosity
     
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  11. haycarter

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    Who wouldn't..?????
     
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