Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    The fact that these cars are build in the US, doesn't mean that they are designed in the US. They are very much designed in Germany, in fact the X5 can trace its roots back to the Range Rover. BMW once owned the Rover group in the UK. So the X series are German cars build in the US, since the US is by far the biggest market for such vehicles.

    Now if you want to see which BMW is built where, look here .

    The mini is not being build in Spartanburg, but instead in its original plant (Oxford UK), and with VDL Nedcar in Born (Netherlands), In Spartanburg only the X3, X4 and X5 are being produced. However this still makes BMW the biggest car exporter of the US.
     
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  3. sdaniel

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    You want to tell the workers there that is not a Mini going down the line ? Plant manager's daughter goes to same college as mine . Have you talked to him ? I have . Think he may know what his plant may turns out ? Guess The Great Ceasar knows better ? A web site tell you different ?
     
  4. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    Perhaps BMW itself? Their description of Spartanburg. (I hope your German is good enough, otherwise look for "mini"). Their description of Oxford. Their description of Born.
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    Our Tractors accept a 60 degree slope, same as Military. Some of them anyway.

    In fact I recall certain tractors had a ball on the dash, as long you saw green you were good. Anything black meant death. Now I don't know about you but we did not have mountains that steep in that particular area, however we did deliver to farms in which a barn would be on top of small hills that would require that ball instrument to see if it was safe or not.
     
  6. Caesar

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    It may depend on the number of wheels mounted. Two wheels on either side will make a tractor far more stable. With us ditches are the problem, when one wheel of a tractor gets into a ditch, the whole machine will tip over.
     
  7. rollin coal

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    Europe is in constant stagnation and decline. There was an article in zero hedge a few days ago talking about the precipitous fall of auto production in France. They'd gone from producing 3.5 million cars in 2003 to 2 million in 2015. While production increased in other industrialized nations.
     
  8. sdaniel

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    But something I have pointed out many times , we are in a global market . But talking to the MAN in charge , instead of a web site.
     
  9. sdaniel

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    We ran duals all around , and flipped them over about one every month. Roll cage and sweeps were more the strong enough . Hook a chain to her and roll her back on her wheels , fire her back up and go again. Had them protected well enough , as long as a tree did not stick through , 9 out of ten times did not even have body damage. Driver was where nothing could get to him . Our guys just laugh it off . Have used the cutter many times as a wheelie bar. We would cut in places you could not walk. What the cutters could not get to you had to weed eat . Ever saw some run a weed eater laying down. Start at the top of a grade cut what you could reach then scoot down 5 or 6 feet.
     
  10. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    France is in Europe, but it's not the whole of Europe. France has two car producers, Renault and the PSA group (Peugeot and Citroën). Renault is doing quite well, and it has a Rumanian branch Dacia that produces simple cheap cars with modern Renault technology. The PSA group did not do so well these past uears. Their cars were not so attractive, and the build quality wasn't that good either.

    Citroen once was an absolutely magnificent brand. Before WWII they has the Traction Avant, a very roomy front wheel drive car with excellent road-holding, far better than any other car of its period. Then in 1955 they brought the DS, a truly revolutionary car. The shape was such that I have seen a US science fiction film from the 1990's where the car was driving around in the future. It had hydro-pneumatic suspension, and the high pressure hydraulics were also used for the brakes and the steering. The interior was also magnificent with an extravagant dashboard etc. That suspension was unbelievable soft, today these cars are difficult to use because of the speed bumps, the suspension will hit the end-rubbers. The day it was unveiled they sold 12,000 of them, that week 80,000.

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    Unfortunately the Citroën managers seemed to have the idea that their cars should also attract customers who would buy bread-and-butter cars, so later models became less and less extravagant. That didn't work out, the people who like extravagant cars were no longer interested, and the bread-and-butter buyers were never interested in the first place. And then you're left with no buyers at all.
     
  11. 98989

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    this is about 45-50% of price for unimog 427 for example, but you can chose 216 and price get closer
     
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