Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. 98989

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    this is really usable, do you have any idea how much does it weights more than normal system? or how much in total

    truck should be under 7490kg for being able to travel anywhere anytime as tow truck and they are always problematic with payload

    that is not bad trailer

    how does that steers? by rods or hydraulics?
     
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    If pulling a pup trailer this would be handy as you wouldn't have to jacknife the trailer or dump on the tongue. Also could be used with spreader chains to distribute bedding for trench work. It's probably not worth the added weight for most applications though.
     
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    saw that only few times, mostly on exibition and fairs , and they are for export.

    here 99% all semitrailers are rear tipper, many years ago majority of them were 3side , but they are heavier, build higher from frame, cost more, not so stable ( although when it get really problematic with stability, you can open sideboards and be more safe than rear tipper)
     
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    1. Can't imagine it weighs much more than a standard tilt/tele deck. I would guess it would probably use a rotec bearing and swing motor similar to an excavator. Depending on what size that GMC truck is it could have a GVW as high as 11,xxx kg. (I think my old GMC was registered at 11,790kg).

    2. Yeah I think its pretty neat. Only trouble with being specialized like that is it isn't very versatile for any other freight.

    3. The pole has a kingpin and pipe bunk at the truck end and a pipe bunk at the trailer end, so the loaded pipe stays parallel to the pole. Trailer bogies are on a swivel bearing below the bunk. 2 long cables with turnbuckles run between the truck and trailer. The cables are crossed so that it pulls the trailer bogie the opposite direction of the truck. The trailer tracks in almost the same path as the truck.
     
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    we use this for described situation, some trailers have it as well
     
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    1. than this is must have, you know here it is everything narrow this would be usable

    2. this is good part, otherway some people in suits would see opportunity to earn on special transport but at same time being able to drive cheap other loads, over time prices for special transports would become funny

    3. here nothing in between is required, except in italy, their law requires trailer to be connected to truck

    when empty trailer is being tow behind truck
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    -trailer can turn by rods, turntable under load is on bearing same as your but underneath are rods that connect it with turntable above axle, this is primitive system and nearly out of use

    -turntable under load and turntable above axles are connected with 2 cilynders it tracks better, works softer and it is better in any detail

    -best solution is with 4 cylinders load turntable is connected with 2 cylinders that powers other two that turn axle , but valve package and some electronics are in between to give best possible properties it is combination of forced steering and selftracking



     
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    That's pretty neat. Does it self steer or does the driver control the steering?

    I think the biggest reason we still use cables on our pipe trailers is simplicity. They haul the pipe directly to the pipeline, which could be a long way away from civilization (and spare parts). Plus a lot of pipeline construction is done in winter and cold weather is a killer on hydraulics. Even winter seals have a hard time keeping oil in at -35. At least if a guy snaps a cable, its field repairable with a couple Crosby clamps or a length of chain. Its not always practical to carry an assortment of hoses, hydraulic fittings and spare cylinders into the bush.
     
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    driver have remote if he needs to steer it in some special cases, but during normal ride it combine stelfsteering and forced steering to achieve same tracks as truck

    well cables are prone to fail, simple rods not

    30years ago italian semitrailers were steered by wires i have seen one of these italian calabrese in october waiting to be scraped
     
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    No dafs need apply....


     
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    Me like!
     
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