Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

Cause the whole point of coming here was to break from the old world. And it annoys people, so we keep doing it.

 

really USA use both systems, like liters for engine displacement, metric threads buy gas is sold in gallons, road signs are in miles, weight in LBS of Roma Empire

 

There are a few things to steer clear of in life.
Commenting on a guys girl.
Saying his truck is ugly.
Asking a question that implies something negative , especially if there is a hint of truth in it.
Its like the ultimate bait being thrown out.

 

The reason being US trucks have starter twice heavy as Euro trucks and another reason being the outdated inch system fastners used on us trucks. US trucks can be fixed by any monkey but are too labor intensive requires old style grease monkey mechanic.

 

Words of wisdom.
I wonder if they were gained by experience. LOL.

 

That makes no sense. All trucks, no matter where they are built or designed have large steel or aluminum components that wear out and need to be replaced from time to time. How the driver interacts with those components and how they interact with each other has changed. That is what requires huge amounts of diagnostic labour that can eat away at one's bottom line in a big hurry. No grease monkey required.


For a one truck operator with mechanical skill and a place to work, the older the better, even if it means giving up 20% fuel economy.

I doubt very much that it's easier to change a clutch or do a brake job on a euro truck. As for fasteners, who cares? Every mechanic needs to buy tools particular to the vehicle he's fixing.

I doubt very much that most NA drivers spend much time thinking about euro trucks.

But I can't believe the outright arrogance of some euro truckers. They come to Canada or the US with a chance to actually live in freedom and provide their families with opportunity like nowhere else on earth and as a show of gratitude, tell us how stupid and backward we do things here. Are there better ways of doing certain things? Probably.
Are they cost effective? Probably not, because if they were, we'd likely be doing them differently.

I'm an immigrant and understand the issues and difficulties with language and custom but cannot wrap my mind around the complete arrogance of some of them.

 

Steady on there bob, Don't get too excited, I for one am very grateful to Canada for the Oppertunity to make a living, I pay the ginormous taxes too to prove that! I like the Canadian people , they have a similar sense of humor to us and can drink just like us lol, I've always been made to feel very welcome in Canada , praries are kinda boring but I've been to banff, what absolute beauty the Rockies have to offer, Edmonton and Calgary are lovely cities with great people, nope I'm not knocking Canada or the US, my problem is with the European owners of your truck manufacturers, why has it taken so long to get the safety features we're accustomed to back home for the last 20 years? Is Canadian or american lives worth less than those in Europe ? the build quality of a NA truck is not as good as it's euro cousin , again why not? Those companies obviously have the technology and research already done, same with fuel efficiency, why haven't these companies focused more on it, it's your livelihood we're talking about! Euro diagnostics are very reliable and every mechanic is trained to understand them and that actually saves money, euro trucks don't have near the same downtime as NA trucks, in the 18 years of my driving career I've never been towed or broken down so bad a machanic had to come out to get me off the road( in my rookie days I ran out of diesel , hardly a breakdown) that's until I came to Canada, 3 times I've been towed back to base this year, albeit that stupid regen system

I think alot of Europeans are looking at posters of American trucks for years, rubbing their gentlemans areas and dreaming about the open road.....then they arrive, dissapointment sets in, it's not as free as they thought, DOT, scales and checkpoints just like home with almost as many regulations, the trucks don't turn out to be the dream machine they anticipated but hey....a truck is a tool and just because we don't like them doesn't mean we dont like the people or the place or doesn't mean we arent grateful to work here. Anyways NA trucks are the result of a closed market; no real competition, Europeans aren't so loyal to their brands, Scania makes a bad truck we go buy a Volvo , it matters less in Europe what name is on the front, we've seen this in the UK before, cars and trucks there had to be british made, trucks were considered luxurious then when drivers slept on planks across the doghouse, the constant strikes led to the importation of foreign vehicles, Japanese cars and Swedish trucks , that was pretty much the end of the golden age of English automotive manufacturing, a closed economy had led to little development and when the foreigners came in they just couldn't compete! There is no excuse for that happening in NA! I'm definitely not arrogant but I'm not ignorant either, these companies are not investing in developing US trucks to save money, that's the bottom line and that annoys me

 

Is it as easy to change disk brake pads on a big truck as a car or bike ? I do wish I had disks all the way around my truck..... And I also want that 730 hp stock motor !

 

it is, because gearbox is behind cab, and you can simply lift it up no need for jacks , except if it is rigid and not tipper or tractor,

brakes also disc pads are quite simple to change , but i am not even looking much at time of that , because you do that once or maybe twice in truck lifetime, but i am looking at things related to truck regular maintenance that take everyday time, no need for lifting grille/hood , you have oil level in cab and everything other will flash, oil intervals are quite high, some brands have even 150tkm which is 93000milles , many trucks dont have lubrication places anymore,but ptfe ....because this take time , no clutch adjustment ,already more than 20-25years brakes are self adjustable,



things i dont like here, is sometimes those new trucks are too complicated and many sensitive things, i would like if you could buy old model with new engine for simplicity for offroad work and tipper work , build in same level of quality as it used to be

 

Well my drum brakes lasted about 900,000 KM and died of "rust jacking" with about 40% left.
Labor was about 2 hours per wheel because I had them pull the hubs for bearing inspection.
It could have been half that but I'm all about maintenance.

Auto slacks have been around NA for about 20 years, self adjusting clutches about the same.

My Mercedes has been a wonderful engine but it has two serious design flaws.
1: the water pump is driven by the same belt as the A/C compressor. Loose the A/C compressor = dead truck.

2: camshaft comes out the back of the engine. This would probably not be an issue in a Cabover but in a conventional, you need to pull the engine to fix it.

But I like it so much that when I wore it out I bought another one. You can't sell me an ISX or series 60.

New technology will not always save you money because.....
A) you will pay for that technology

B) new technology comes with new training of the technicians and you will pay for that every time your trucks in the shop.

Edit; I read somewhere where 800,000 KM is high milage for a euro truck. Is that true?

Edit #2: so on a euro truck the clutch gets done from the top with a crane and on a NA truck from the bottom with jacks. I see no difference.

Unless they've got Hans and Franz lifting the trans with their bare hands. But then 'mericans have Bubba......

A few hours one way or the other is nothing over a lifespan.