Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

Really OM460 and OM457 are used in buses, including local Russian buses Volzanin.

Really MAN amd MBE shares mechanical parts, but injection is totally different. Mercedes used PLD (pump units + injectors), like DAF (pre MX engine), ore Mack E7/8.

MAN used injection pump, usually electronically controlled, later with EGR. in 2003 MAN switched to common rail. In USA they sell CRD engine with Maxxforce logo. From Germany they got Advanced EGR + Catalistic converter (MAN PM KAT).

Ok, about 457 and 460 engines... Mercedes wanted to use Actros engine in conventional trucks, but exaust manyfolds of V6/V8 engines are to wide for hood and they used 460 engine in freightliners. In Brazil local engeniers wanted to build cheaper cabover. Actros was too complicated and too expencive so the used Mercedes class 8 truck frame and put cheaper Atego cab on it on kind of pedestal (in line engine is taller), and put 457 and 460 engine under cab. It was the first Axor, later made in Germany and Turkey.

 

Oh don't sweat it bob, you didn't come across that way I was just giving my view what my personal issues are and so you know it's not with Canada or the US just big greedy corporations ! I'm not easily offended anyway buddy lol

 

Yup, very simple, you'd change every wheel in a few minutes, I want one of those too

 

Yup 800,000 is considired high on fleet trucks especially, big fleets will change every couple of years, fleet trucks tend to have Egr engines to avoid buying adblue while a small guy would buy scr for longer life and less problems, big fleets want to stay ahead of emissions laws to save on tax, o/o's tend to keep their trucks much longer. so would small fleet operators with their own shop.

You can do the clutch in a euro truck in about 3hours, I've seen a kenworth here take two weeks to get a clutch lol ( shops really take the piss in Canada )

We've had all this technology so long now nobody needs new training, it's part of becoming a mechanic and for the most part all can do it, shops in Canada don't want to see new stuff and resist learning about it and boy do they know how to charge, once there's technicians that understand what they are doing the tech stuff works really well , like my 6 year old nephew , saw some toys he wanted online so 'borrowed' mommys credit card and ordered himself enough stuff to do him to adulthood, kids nowadays are accustomed to using technology mechanics are the same, once it's all around them they learn

 

If Kenworth took 2 weeks to do a clutch, it say in line for 13 days. Which is believable in Alberta along with a $200/hr shop rate.

Supply and demand.

Coast Powertrain will have it done inside of one 8 hour shift.

 

Minutes?

Maybe the pads but not the rotors.

 

Is it true that euro trucks have the engine brake switch on the floor and that you can't leave it on, but rather must leave your foot on it to operate it?

The reason given to me was that you are expected to alternate between engine and service brakes.

 

yes, it is left of place where clutch used to be , but long time ago trucks get integrated brakes all on brake pedal , scania did that long time ago before 25years ,later 20years ago they include retarder also in this,

we dont use engine brakes that much , retarder is main , and even from beginning , retarder get steps , you pull it usually 0-5 some are only 4steps , about 18years from now most manufacturers integrated engine brake on retarder level some favors first use of engine brake some add engine brake on later steps ....

in modern electronic era(10years from now), you set max allowed downhill cruise speed and let truck doing all , use retarder , more retarder or max retarder, downhshifting or in worst case using service brakes to keep speed,(with retarder this will happened about never)

 

Yeah it's true but I can't ever remember using it to be honest, most euro boxes have retarders ( think of a Jake on steroids) even mandatory in some mountainous countries like Spain , kinda makes the engine brake obsolete , euro engine brakes are crap anyway nothing like a Jake ! You can have the engine brake come on with the retarder but makes little difference on increases noise, retarder is very quiet just a small high pitched whine so I tend to leave the EB switched off, retarder is set automatically, when the truck picks up speed going downhill it cuts in at a set speed or you can operate it manually with a small lever like an indicator lever on the steering column and have it set to supplement the foot brake or you can swith it off altogether, very user friendly and very powerful, they have to have antilock built in for safety

 

Yeah they really milk it , they charged our company $33,000 to replace the head on a cat c12 ( I think it was or could have been a c13). I'd hate to be an o/o out here!