Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Shared some new tech in a PM with 98989 . May cure a bunch of issues . Invented by Red Necks in PA . Asked nicely they may share ?
     
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  3. KVB

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    In general DPF's were introduced for euro-6 trucks. Not euro-4 or 5.

    For most trucks Euro5 was SCR/DEF only, with a few exceptions like Scania or MAN having EGR, without SCR/DEF on some models.

    Even now euro-2 and euro-3 trucks are still being produced in large numbers for markets like africa. Same or worse emission level than the 98-02 North American (pre-emission) engines.
     
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    Wonder when he will figure it out ?
     
  5. Cat sdp

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    He’s got to be a kid......

    Doesn’t even seem to know details about euro trucks.....
     
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    You are probably not aware of it, but Ford use some of the most advanced technology in the engines used in their pick-up trucks.
    The turbocharged, dual injection technology (combined port- and direct injection) Ecoboosts, the dual-injection 5.0.
    The dual injection is still very uncommon in europe, if available at all. Toyota uses it, but not for european market.

    Volvo recently announced their new 13 liter LNG truck engine. Developped with canadian technology.
     
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    My F-150 the only way to fly....
     
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    You have told me that it is not ypur only vehicle, what else do you drive
     
  9. sdaniel

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    image.jpg We use the bigger trucks once the load gets heavy... Not yet.
     
  10. Accidental Trucker

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    A few Germans, in the larger cities. And they use gas guzzling BMW's and Mercedes instead of pickups.



    The fraction of the world production of steel in Germany has fallen precipitously. In 2016, China produced TWENTY times the amount of steel of Germany. USING steel in manufacturing, yes, MAKING steel from ore and coal? Not much of that going on any more. A few niche manufacturers making boutique steels.

    Rotterdam/ Pernis has a lot of chemical industry based on feed stocks produced elsewhere. Thank you for illustrating my point.



    One factor out of many. Your gas deposits are close to gone, you haven't mined coal in two generations, no significant heavy industry, and most of your agricultural exports involve animal husbandry / feedlot operations (i.e. chicken, hog, milk). Those agriculture sectors use tremendous amounts of grain/corn as feed, and where does the grain come from. Thank you for illustrating my point.

    You fundamentally do not understand manufacturing. Germany IMPORTS most of it's steel, then uses it in manufacturing. Which takes only a fraction of the energy of actually mining, refining, smelting and milling the steel. Do you know it takes nearly as much energy to produce the raw materials in a modern vehicle as that vehicle will burn during a normal life cycle?

    But, thank you for illustrating my point.

    The US is complacent? My, you are an amusing myopic provincial squirt.

    Let's see. We haven't done much in automotive. Which is a legacy industry without much innovation, and even developing nations are putting out competitive cars. Heck, even the French are making some cars that last more than a few years.

    Now, instead, we spent some effort on other things. Space, for example. The Euro's are still plodding along in a malarial swamp in Guyana shooting rockets into space, occasionally, that were designed when Moses was a small boy. We're shooting them into space several a month, landing the boosters, reuse them, and do the whole thing for 20% of the costs.

    We've been kinda busy looking forward to new things, not fighting over old, established stagnant technology. Things like GPS, the internet. Software like Facebook, Google, inventing things like smartphones. Electric cars that actually work. Re-inventing retail through things like Amazon. Reinventing transportation through things like Uber and Lyft.

    We've been kinda busy making a boat load of money on new things, too busy to worry too much about low or no-margin industries like automotive and steel much.
     
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    You said yourself its ok to pollute for economic reasons. Or did you forget that?
     
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