Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Hydraulics .
    No cranes.
    Takes then very little time to unload,less then 30 min.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    You should see De Rooy latest creation.
    Those 3 axles are now 5 axles with even smaller tires so they can be even lower.
     
  4. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Lets see.
    Your way trucks are 130 000$ and more by the time you pick it up at the dealer.
    Our way the truck costs around 100 000$.
    You are 200% right.......your way is better.
     
  5. spyder7723

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    Fairly certain he was only speaking about how they were transported.

    However on the topic of a new truck cost, I'm curious as to how much of the price tag is taxes. The fet tax we have adds quite a bit to the cost of a new truck.
     
  6. KVB

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    Collection of De Rooy pictures:
    de Rooy Son
    2 pictures near bottom of page show this setup.
     
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  7. Caesar

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    That may differ per country. There's always Value Added Tax. I don't know if you are familiar with the principle of VAT, so I will explain it. Suppose you buy a new truck, and you have to pay €20,000 VAT. You pay that VAT to your truck dealer, not to the tax collector. However, your customers have to pay you VAT over your bills, so let's say that is €100,000 in that year. In principle you have to pay that €100,000 to the tax collector, however you can deduct the VAT for the truck from that amount, so you only have to pay €100,000 - €20,000 = €80,000. That's how the VAT system works, in the end the consumer pays all VAT.

    You don't have to charge VAT to foreign customers within the EU. Instead they have to supply you with their VAT number, and you inform your national tax collector how much that customers has paid, and what his VAT number is. The tax collector will exchange that information with the tax collector of your customer's country, and your customer will be charged with VAT in his own country. So there is an EU-wide exchange of tax information based on VAT numbers.
     
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  8. Caesar

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    Well, there have been two answers, but not really a definitive one. I assume that in Europe all wheels touching the ground should have working brakes with ABS. So far I haven't seen any answer that says this is the case with the NA way of transporting new tractors. In fact Spyder7723 wrote:
     
  9. daf105paccar

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    Good try at explaining but not complete.

    Every purchase you pay VAT
    value added tax
    Any registered bussiness can reclaim VAT ,proof is the invoice.
    Every 3 months there is a settlement.
    So for a bussiness it is a zero operation,you give it and 3 months later you get it back.
    You just need to be able to handle the cashflow.
    When i buy a truck i have it invoiced 4 months before delivery.
    So by the time i need to pay for the truck ,the VAT is allready back.
    (Not many O O can do that as they don't have the cashflow)

    Private citizens ,cities,towns,......they cannot reclaim the VAT.
    All prices are advertised with VAT included.

    Anything i buy that is for myself ,not bussiness related i have to pay the VAT.
     
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  10. Caesar

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    True, I tried to keep it as simple as possible.

    Maybe with the help of the bank?

    Private citizens not, that is true. With cities, towns etc. it is a bit more complicated. Often they work as an authority, and then they don't have to charge VAT, but in other cases they almost work as a comnpany, and then they will have to charge VAT. Anyway, here in the Netherlands we have a VAT compensation fund for these kind of authorities.

    Not over here. Prices for goods targeted at consumers always must be advertised with VAT included. Prices for goods targeted at companies (like trucks) are always advertised without VAT.

    True, so you always try to make it look as if it is business related :) .
     
  11. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    That would be cheating the taxman.
    Nobody does that.:eek::rolleyes::p

    Hint.
    Own the property,rent it to the compagny and have the compagny pay for maintenance/upgrading it.
     
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