Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    Can also be caused by hitting an object?

    Rebuilding is a possibility, or just a new or rebuild engine block?
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Crate engine is complete iirc.
    Insert and hook up all lines.
     
  4. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    Yes, that is possible. But you can also get bare engine blocks, so you have to move all parts like manifolds, turbo, generator and so on from the old to the new block. And then you can send the old block in return to be rebuild.
     
  5. Cat sdp

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    If you need a crank and a block rebuilding is most likely more expensive......

    P.S. he didn’t hit anything.... it’s a failure period....... they were saying there was a problem with bearing caps that were torqued incorrectly on some engines.....
     
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    Cat,keep us updated pls.
    I am curious how Paccar USA will handle it.
     
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    If something knocked a window in the pan (or block) it was probably a rod that made the hole. It probably made a hell of a mess in the engine, hitting the block, maybe oil pump, camshaft, fuel pumps, etc etc.

    I saw several MX engines (euro V, not just the early engines, all between 500 and 800 thousand kilometers) with windows, either in the block or the pan. Most caused after engine ran away because of blown turbo. It is not that uncommon. Some deaers or owners just replace the turbo every 500thousand kilometers as precaution.



    In all of these the short block was not salvageable, and most needed the head rebuilt as well because valves hit the pistons. Ended up replacing complete engine with engine from salvage yard.

    If you buy just the bare block, you will probably also need a crank, rods, pistons, and maybe cam, oil pump etc. Not a good option.
    Depending on the damage done, a short block would be the minimum, and possibly need to rebuild the head as well. If the cam was hit and broke, valves most likely hit the pistons.

    If head is damaged or needs rebuild, a long block may be an option.

    I don't know if short or long block or available from Paccar, maybe they only have crate engines.

    In my experience. it is always worse than expected, once you remove the oil pan.

    Piston (what's left of it) I found in engine that suddenly stopped running. Not a DAF/Paccar.
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    No external damage at all.
    Tried to start engine again, and flywheel was spinning, but not the crankshaft.
    We hoped it was just broken flywheel bolts, but that would not cause to engine to die, just to rev high without load.

    After removing oil pan and head I found camshaft in 8 pieces, bent crank, bent rods, broken pistons, bent valves.
    I kept piston as souvenir. I have more, from different occasions.....:(
     
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  8. Caesar

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    So am I.
     
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    May as well just weld a chain to it and toss it off a boat. All its good for now.
     
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    agree, in most cases any serious engine makes no sense to repair, even with our low hour rate of just 20-25€ in workshop.

    many of 501 series end their life with broken rod and block and almost nobody even tried to fix them, even considering this is quite simple engine. this happened in series of 2005-2011,
    it is interesting that this happens between 500 and 650tkm, if engine pass 700 than you are safe it will be good. friend was running well over 40% more hp than serial, he had 3 failures, once injector leak, once blown intake manifold , third time cracked rod and block sold to middle east in this form.
     
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    here general tax is 25%.
    tax on income is even up to 40% ( my father due to high income/low costs caused by truck that pay off itself several times which he refuse to change for younger due his beliefs)
    tax on property rent is 10%, so you can rent your(as private person) own place to your company and pay 10% of it as tax
     
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