Why In the world was any of this nonsense even part of CDL requirements??

You don't have to be liberal to understand the POLITICAL science behind climate change. Fixed it for you. There are over 30k scientists worldwide that have signed a paper stating that there is no climate emergency. EV's are claimed to save the planet. Even without tailpipe emissions they are big polluters. To get 1 ton of lithium pollutes 600k gallons of water as it separated in big pools. Close to 20 tons of soil have to be disturbed to obtain one ton of some of the other minerals used in batteries and electric motors. And the child labor in Africa. And China either owns or controls about 85% of the worlds rare earth minerals used in making EV batteries, electric motors and solar panels. And tires wear out a lot faster due to the extra weight of the batteries. The Sierra Club even tried to blame the CA fires on climate change when the real cause was not managing the forests by clearing underbrush and lack of water to fight the fires. Every hurricane or major weather event is said to be due to climate change when the data shows these events have been decreasing over the last several decades.

 

Please note that you said scientists and not climate scientists. What would an astrophysicist or a geologist know about climate science? There's a bunch of scientists that claim the Earth is flat. Does that mean it is? I suppose we have at least one member here that would say that's right.

 

That is exactly why most liberals oppose CCS, because it doesn't negatively impact the production or consumption of fossil fuels which is one of the core issues of their movement and collective mindset. This was made blatantly obvious a few years ago when liberals very vocally objected to rather than celebrated Oxy's announcement to construct and operate a CCS plant in the Permian Basin. If we were truly on the brink of a climate emergency then they would be celebrating any and all efforts to remove CO2 from the atmosphere.

I fail to see how a government entity spending taxpayers' money to further subsidize government-run mass transit could increase GDP since mass transit systems are government operated, and rely on subsidies due to their inherent inability to break even much less turn of profit strictly from fares.
Mass transit improvements only benefit passengers in urban areas who are able and willing to travel along predetermined routes at predetermined times; they do not promote freedom of individual movement. They cannot benefit anyone who lives outside the service area of a mass transit system, nor do they benefit intercity travelers or freight movement of any scope. Speaking of mass transit, liberals had the opportunity to champion a transition away from gasoline and diesel to clean-burning natural gas by subsidizing the building out of a NG distribution infrastructure - starting with mass transit, government fleet vehicles, and local vocational vehicles such as school buses, garbage trucks, concrete mixers, P&D trucks, and package delivery vans - but I don't recall reading one article or hearing one public speech from the left in support of such a program that would drastically reduce tailpipe emissions resulting in reduced pollution and cleaner air for all residents of any given metro area. Their silence was deafening.

 

One of many videos on the subject.

 

"Yes, these projects do exist and they do suck carbon out of the atmosphere" was the last thing I heard, because everything after that is going to be nothing but propaganda.


And if carbon capture isn't real then explain why cryo companies have been using ASUs to produce CO2 from atmospheric air for decades.

 

Takes less CO2 out of the atmosphere then is produced making the energy for it. And any energy used to take CO2 out of the atmosphere could be better used to reduce the amount of energy used. It's a pointless technology.

Think of it like spending $2 to save a dollar.

Also it's basically dry ice that will eventually evaporate back into the atmosphere so it's not even sequestered.

 

Yeah, it's hard to support something that is mainly a PR stunt.

Occidental Petroleum Quietly Abandons Biggest Carbon Capture Plant
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364032118305094


Oxy's Century plant has never functioned above 50% and is an abject failure.

Stratos might be more succseful, but it's hard to justify spending $500 million tax dollars subsidizing technology that has consistantly failed to come anywhere close to its projections.


“The higher the proportion of fixed-guideway transit in a regional network, the higher the GDP and job growth,” Fan says. (Fixed-guideway transit is defined as any transit that runs on a dedicated right-of-way, and includes any rail transit as well as bus rapid transit.)

Cars, Public Transportation, and Their Effect on The Economy — The Catalyst Project

Can you really argue that taking 5% of the cars off the road during rush hour won't make hauling freight easier and cheaper?

 

Roger, you're sidestepping the point which is that liberals opposed the plant before it was even built much less commissioned and placed into service. Moreover, they opposed the very idea of the plant as well as other projects (like the NG infrastructure builtout) because, despite the fact that it advances their purported agenda it undermines their actual agenda.

 

Well, it looks like they were right. Maybe they did their research.

 

Oh Tb0n3, you are in deep. The Earth's climate is not static. Also plants like CO2. We are actually heading towards a cooling cycle. Everything you post is right out of the socialist playbook. Did you find time to post between riots?