Why is chain TS diesel $1/gal MORE than svc plazas @ NY turnpike?

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  1. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Yup company i am leased to has a fuel discount card thats pretty decent. Typically $0.50 cents less then the posted price. And ive seen as much as a dollar lower. When i gotta pay out of pocket however i dont get the discount. How much the discount is varies store to store and day to day though.

    Yup started in virgina this morning and had to go through PA to get across towards MI the price in VA was $5.80. I get into PA fuel is $6.22. i get to ohio and just paid $4.69 a gallon at a little bitty ma and pa which was the cheapest on route. I always make sure to go where its cheap.
     
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  3. JSanborn103

    JSanborn103 Medium Load Member

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    When I did OTR they only let us fuel at pilot. Maybe they’re just milking companies like thst
     
  4. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    Raise the price and give a discount. Typical marketing tactic that makes people feel special when they aren’t really doing anything.

    someone here once said the reason for a price difference was because of the equipment used in truck stops to fill tanks is different than the ones used in civilian stops.


    Trucking companies do the same, price increases for specialized equipment.
     
  5. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    In fairness thats a bad comparison. The equipment needed to haul oversized, do something like dumping, or flatbed are vastly diffrent and usually much more expensive and take a fair bit more training and risk. I can tell you that from experince. A new end dump runs a good deal more then that of a new dry van not even accounting for additional insurance, stuff like my PTO and needing a high speced truck. Well usually it does unless dry vans have gone bonkers in price like they have.

    A better comparison would be like buying a new car. The sticker price says say $100,000 but the dealer gives you all these discounts on it so you walk away paying $85K thinking you got a good deal all while the dealer just made 20k then turns around and sells your old beater he paid $800 for puts new oil in it then sells it at $4500 and does the same tactic to a young kid that buys it for $3800 thinking he got a good deal.
     
  6. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    Actually not a bad comparison. The theory is what matters. Both require different equipment. Gas stations vs truck stops. 1 pump vs 2, convenience of parking, and other things.

    IE a hot shot vs a class 8 flat bed for the same load. Rate difference on the required equipment is there.


    In other words it’s ok for truckers to raise the rate for the required equipment but not truck stops. On top of that you’ve seen majority of truckers? Slobs I tell you.
     
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  7. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Ahh i misunderstood you. I read it as disagreeing on the equipment being a factor. My mistake there.

    As for truckers being slobs....your preaching to the quior there. Actully had an out of towner see my rig parked infront of the farm i live at and back in beside it. Not a big deal because our road deadends so we own it up to the blacktop. And we dont care if someone stops there because a few locals have used it before....or at least didnt care. ####### threw all his trash on the ground including several bags full of ####....yes several. Swept his trailer out on the ground leaving nails and bits of wood down for our sheep to get into or ruin our tires, then left a #### right infront of our mailbox on the ground and then ran over our drainage pipe and crush it on the way out costing us most of a day to dig it up and replace it as well as a few hundred dollars. We now have a gate up and dont let anyone park there we dont know.
     
  8. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    Another factor is price fluctuations and what the fuel in the ground cost when they had it delivered. Fuel has been all over the place. I looked up that Fultonville TA on the NASTC app and see the discount ain't all that great. What stood out is the price today is 13¢ higher than tomorrow's. Lower volume mom & pops could go either way depending on what their last fuel delivery and the next one may cost. Lately I'm guessing that could be quite a spread.

    Rutter's earned a place in my heart when I discovered their fried mac & cheese bites. I was struggling to figure out a food that truck stops could serve to make drivers even fatter and there it was. I could eat those delicious nuggets until I throw a clot from all the cholesterol and black out. Lucky for me and future strokes, PA hasn't been on the travel plan lately.
     
  9. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

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    Kind of like college and healthcare ?
     
  10. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    How much of that could come out in the wash with IFTA? The price at the pump is after taxes that you pay on IFTA to drive in the state, isn't it?

    Keep in mind I'm only assuming since I'm not an owner op.
     
  11. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    Too much price difference in this case. He's still better off fueling in OH and eating IFTA. Even if he did 100% of his driving in PA, but always went to OH for fuel, he'd get nailed by IFTA, but he'd still be way ahead in overall savings.
     
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