Why is it so hard to remove this auto transmission restriction?

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Brown Moose, Feb 9, 2024.

  1. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Like one of the other posters pointed out, this is why it is SO important to train with a school which has standard transmissions to train and test on... but as another poster pointed out.. the industry standard is now automated transmissions.. you're not missing much
     
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  3. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    depends upon watch niche of the industry you want to be in. if you are hauling milk, automated trash transmissions are not the standard. look at the fleets of any milk hauler and you will find the majority of the trucks are 13 and 18 manual transmissions. automated transmissions just arent very good for constant backing, arent the best for bad weather (no ability to rock the truck to get moving in bad weather, limited control of the shift points). and dont compensate well for surge loads. personally, you can have an automated transmission. i have no use for them. my previous job, at one time tried to convert his fleet to automated transmissions. most drivers hated them, they were breaking more often, and they were more expensive to repair. that company always bought there trucks brand new, and by the time i left they phased out the automated transmissions almost completely..... at one time they were down to only a few manuals, they had reversed course and were buying brand new KW T880 manual 18s. my current job has 30 trucks, only 2 of them are automated.

    having that restriction is still a limitation, unless you want to stuck working for big mega massive fleets hauling dry freight. no thanks. i actually enjoy grabbing gears.
     
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  4. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    not true, i drove a 13 speed today. the milk hauling company i work for has a fleet of 30 trucks, and only 2 of them are autos. they have 9 new trucks they will be getting soon to replace the 2019's and they will all have 13 manuals. freightliner cascadia. manual trucks are still fairly common with local companies, especially companies hauling fluid commodities and gravel/stone/blacktop. i personally cant stand automated transmissions. my own personal car has a 6 speed manual
     
  5. Brown Moose

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    I did receive my money back. But only $800 I guess $500 has to go to the federal government.
     
  6. Brown Moose

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    Most of the local jobs out here require me to drive a manual transmission.
     
  7. Brown Moose

    Brown Moose Bobtail Member

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    That requires me to fork out $5,000 for a full class. For something I dont even really need.
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    My automatic garbage transmission sounds like it’s getting ready to explode with the bang it makes going into 9th.

    In almost 25 years of trucking I’ve never even killed a clutch. This will be hilarious if the allegedly driverproof POS throws a gear through the side of the case before it even makes it to 150K miles.
     
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  9. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    What brand is it? Truck I mean.

    I've been driving nothing but autos since 2018 and never had a single issue with any of them.
     
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  10. ad356

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    my previous job had a few of them, it was laughable listening to an autoshift go "crunch". i though these things werent supposed to do that. i saw quite a few of them quit working like you said at less then 150K miles..... the clutch would fail. hauling milk was particularly hard on them, they dont like fluid and they dont like overweight loads. if you cant shift you probably shouldnt be driving an 18 wheeled truck, that on an overweight permit can weigh as much as 103K lbs.
     
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    ad356 Road Train Member

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    they are more expensive by far to repair and less reliable. a manual transmission with a driver that knows how to drive it has a very long service life, an autoshift is russian roulette, if it wants to quit.... it's going to quit, and it's going to cost a heavy tow. if a manual transmission has an issue, many times it can be nursed back to the yard. another issue, if the starter goes on an autoshift it's dead. if the starter goes on a manual, the truck can be pull started. if have seen it happen, starter quits on a milk truck at a farm. the farmer at the farm the truck happens to be at will hook up a tractor and pull the truck. put it into gear and pop the truck, the truck drives back on it's own power. this would also work on a hill. granted, you need a big enough piece of equipment to pull the dead truck. this is not even an option with an auto, you will be towing it.
     
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