why no baffles in tankers

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by onewaygirl, Apr 30, 2010.

  1. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Basic first aid. Then progressing as I learned.

    We are fixing to take a course that deals with gunshot trauma and what to use from commercially availible trauma medkits and how to use them properly.

    EMT? Nuh uh, those are licensed and so forth able to push medicines. Me, im just doing what I can to keep your bleeding stopped if possible before EMT gets there, it might be a hour. Several times people have been tossed down the median from a overturned vehicle. Busted bones, stopped heart and or not breathing, that is where CPR comes in. Police usually show up with a breather and I let them do that part while I deal with the heart. The rest can wait.

    It really does not bother me anymore. There was one lady partially ejected through a big plate back window of a dodge. The truck landed on it's roof leaving her hanging above the left median about 3 feet. We had a driver under her head to hold it up so she could breathe and scream while being cut in half by the remaining glass in the back window. There was simply too much damage what with the intestines and other organs in that part of the body coming out. That one needed jaws of life which we did not have. EMT and fire took about 20 minutes to get there. I will make a presumption she lived. Partly because of obesity, the layer of fat several inches thick took most of the glass damage keeping her stomach more or less intact. But she would be in the hospital a while. Like weeks.

    You help where you can. The ones I cannot help and get me are the burn cases. You can knock a fire down and frankly if it's too big a fire you cannot get to them and they burn to death. Sometimes you can get them out, but because of the burns and it's nature of damage loss of fluids, loss of ability to hold temperature and loss of pressure in the blood and so on so forth, they sometimes just pass on then and there. *Shrugs.

    I am actually able to take bp readings plus or minus 5 on the gauge and a few other things. But You cannot save them all. You lose some.

    Fast forward to today, I am even less inclined to get involved in my area. EMT within 3 minutes police in half that time and they are issued kits better than what I have at home plus narcan etc. So I let them take care of whomever is in trouble. Especially in today's society where if you did something bad and hurt someone trying to help, they can and will sue you. It's a different time these days.

    However... there are training and classes availible for the more advanced stuff and it's a pleasure to sit and train and learn. Particularly those related to weapons type injuries that might be very possible as a license carry these days.

    I rather have those than burns. The burns you cannot do anything for. It requires much more care at a much higher level. Best you might do is hold a hand thats not burned and pray for them. Which isnt that much.

    Sometimes freight appointments are tight enough (Within 10 minutes of perhaps being late) you don't stop at all. You keep moving and rolling. I hate to put a appointment over someone's life potentially and that is where the doubt comes in. Is that load of potato chips going to walmart the cause of someone dying as I rolled by? I don't know the answer to that question so I don't stress about it too much.

    Would I be a EMT? No. And I will tell you why. Medicines and drugs. Once you start pushing stuff into people like that, you better #### well know what you are doing. Me? I'll deal with the bone sticking out of your leg. That's easy. Relatively speaking. And leave the EMT stuff to people who know what they are doing and are licensed for that work.

    Basic first aid. You can do a bit more than basic with the right kit. But you can only do so much. If you don't understand a problem it's best just to keep that person warm against winter cold until EMT and people who will make those decisions get there. Does that make sense?
     
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  3. sawmill

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    To be honest, no it doesn't make sense...

    You say you've saved countless lives, yet only have basic first aid training...I'm not saying its not possible, I'm saying it's not plausible.

    You're an interesting character, X1...I have a hard time telling if you're just weaving a grand tale for entertainment's sake or if you're serious and actually believe the things you write. Take the story you tell about the fat lady whose innards were spilling out...I'm not saying it's not possible that there was plate glass in the back window of a Dodge, but I'm saying it's more likely it had the typical safety glass that wouldn't do the kind of damage you describe. It's quite the story.

    The trouble I have with it is maybe I'm not the only one who can't tell if you're serious. What if some young impressionable person reads your stories and says to themselves, well that one guy on the internet said it, so it must be possible...and I'm not talking about just this example of the medical situation, but things in general that you choose to opine on. There's a potential for people to get hurt by following bad advice or trying to accomplish what isn't realistic.

    I encourage you to be careful with what you post on as a self touted expert or experienced hand and consider how it is read and interpreted by others. I'd sure hate to see someone get hurt by following your guidance.
     
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  4. not4hire

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  5. x1Heavy

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    I do things in life for better or worse, if it is a problem then there is no country for me.

    I understand what you are saying, Im not concerned about the expert part, heck the leg is easily stabilised with splints and something to wrap both ends of same and something over the wound itself. Im no expert. Sometimes people are hurt bad enough there is nothing you can do. Ive already explained all that.

    As far as the impressionable person inclined to try and imitate me? Ha that will be the day. Remember I explained that today's society is more inclined to sue those who tried to help. So I become less willing to help. If at all.

    I tell stories about things that goes on in this industry the way I saw it first hand. Some of it I label lunch counter talk a little bit, however there is a grain of truth in there.

    Keep in mind the stories I write online are the ones that generally have a lesson in them somewhere. The really bad stories do not make it online. As in really bad days.

    Ive already decided that barring any new stories that I might recover from those days long gone, I'll be moving along soon enough. It's almost that time for me anyhow.

    At some point the account will have to be erased when a sufficient time has passed. And that's fine by me. My executors do not know how to do this so it's up to TTR to wipe it when they feel like it.

    Adios.
     
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  6. Roberts450

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    The ignore feature is awesome. Just saying ;)
     
  7. ZVar

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    While true, the annoying thing is not so much what someone says. It's the bad advice they give out. If the ignore is used, then they simply keep giving out bad advice and with no rebuttal the new guys takes it as truth.
     
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  8. GasHauler

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    Some tankers are smooth bore with no baffles or bulkheads. They do this because of sanitation reasons.
     
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  9. Ristow

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    You'd need a baffled tanker to haul the b.s that's amassed in this thread....
     
  10. homeskillet

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    I admit I'M baffled........
     
  11. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    That's not to way it is around here, all milk tankers are smooth bore.

    A good friend of mine is a dairy farmer. The driver will take a sample of his milk before he loads it with everybody else's. When the load gets to the dairy plant, they will test his sample. You have a bad sample, you just bought the whole load.
     
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