Why so many winter (water based) liquid loads posted for vans?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by seamutt, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. seamutt

    seamutt Light Load Member

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    A few of these loads contain warnings about being responsible for preventing freezing, but most do not. And they are heading from, or into, areas where freezing could seemingly be a real risk. I've been rigorously avoiding having anything to do with them, but are the shippers who don't post a warning really willing to accept the risk? I'm curious as to what is going on here. What is your policy on hauling these loads? Are there some sort of portable heating devices that a hauler can use in uninsulated vans?
     
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  3. seamutt

    seamutt Light Load Member

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    Okay, I'll answer one of my own questions. I was aware many Reefer trailers had heating capability, but I now see there's also such a thing as an insulated 'Heater Van'. But that's not going to do me any good.
     
  4. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I used to grab beer loads out of Colorado as part of a triangle I ran. Those trailers would sometimes sit for a couple days in freezing temps before I picked them up and I never had a problem with the loads. And the BOLs always said "Protect from Freezing". Now some other types of food/beverage loads, I don't know.

    I certainly wouldn't invest in any kind of heater unless I was going to be running that kind of stuff a lot and the rates justified it,
     
  5. HoneyBadger67

    HoneyBadger67 Road Train Member

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    I've hauled bottled water and beer in freezing temps and never had a problem. Some said to idle the truck when parked and that it would be enough vibration to keep from freezing.
     
  6. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Friend of mine from Montana drives for Missoula Bottling in one of their transport trucks. He said if it’s real cold they just idle all night and don’t have any problems.
     
  7. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    I've never had a problem with water freezing in the northeast here. Maybe if your way up north and it gets around 0 and you have it parked over the weekend that might be a different story
     
  8. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Been about a decade since i did van loads but when i ran beer and drinks never really had a problem unless it got into -40 or less range. Those bottles kegs ect are usually coming from heated warehouses and there is a LOT of thermal mass in them that bleeds out into the trailer which then insulates them to a degree. They WILL freeze....EVENTUALLY but it takes either a long time or extreme conditions. You might lose a handful of bottles on the outer edges but as a general rule as long as its not in the trailer for days or weeks your going to be fine.
     
  9. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    I personally not run a water load thru -26 in the northern plains over a few days. When my contacts freeze to my eyeballs and snot turns to sharp icicles in your nose.or when you run a reefer and dare not to have it on start/stop for the cold..That’s the sign! They should have paid for a reefer but would rather you pay for the load.
     
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  10. seamutt

    seamutt Light Load Member

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    The mass of latent energy keeping loads from freezing also occurred to me, but I wondered how well it actually worked. However posters seem to saying, pretty darn well! Additionally, I'd bet that the contents of certain loads like fats and salt in canned food would help. Still though, this is all kind of vague. And I'm not sure I want to deal with the worry.
     
  11. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Entirely understandable. If your really worried could always hook an espar bunk heater up to an aux tank on the front in a waterproof box blowing warm air inside. Seen a few guys run setups like that over the years.
     
  12. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Most a water or soda loads. If you leave truck on that keeps it from freeze and that is what they are saying.
     
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