Why some truckers are bad?

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by ddagne, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. ddagne

    ddagne Bobtail Member

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    Yes there are many terrible "four wheelers" out there.I am much comfortable to drive around with trucks instead of small cars.Most truckers know what they are doing.
     
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  3. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    You DO NOT have to slow down or move for an emergency vehicle ... all you have to do is yield right of way. If the emergency vehicle is simple coming up in the lane next to you, you need do nothing.

    The problem is too many people think like you and believe they have to pull over, whether it is behind you or oncoming ...
     
  4. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    I don't know where you got your license from but please do us all a favor, go and hand your license back to who ever gave it to you. As clearly you were not taught or told properly.

    See link below and leave a number where you gonna hand in your license
    http://www.safeny.ny.gov/emer-ndx.htm

    and just incase you need big words and need pictures check here
    http://fcs.tamu.edu/safety/passenger_safety/pdf/emergency_vehicles.pdf

    you need all 50 states or are you ready to hand over your license
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2014
  5. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Close, but no cigar Lowa.
    Last figures I read of studies involving Big trucks vs four-wheelers, in which a fatality occurred, --- it was determined that the fault was that of the four-wheeler in over 78% of such incidents. To better realize the significance of those percentage numbers, think of it this way; out of 100 crashes, the fault is attributed to the four-wheeler driver 78 times out of 100 times. Over three-quarters of the time, or three out of four times.
    Considering that the average over-the-road Big truck truck driver covers around 120,000 to 130,000 miles per year, every year. That's around 10,000 ---> 11,000 miles each month, --- about the same distance the average four-wheeler driver puts on their odometer in a year. After eight to ten years, a Big truck truck driver reaches one-million miles driven.
    In contrast, if a four-wheeler driver starts driving at age 16 and continues driving for sixty years, they'd cover just over half the miles, (600,000). A big truck truck driver with only 30 years over-the-road would be wearing their belt buckle awarded for three-million miles. Per miles driven, Big truck truck drivers seem to be, by far, the better, safer, drivers. Considering operating in unfamiliar surroundings, in all kinds of weather and road conditions, height of 13 feet 6 inches, length often in excess of 60 feet, and weights up to 80,000 pounds, kinda makes the Big truck truck drivers look even better.
    Seems as though they're doin' somethin' right out thar.
    Ya reckon. :smt112
     
  6. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    ok so sue me really I was off by only 12%, but I guess the bigger point of the issue which we both agreed on was that 4 wheelers are mostly at fault. (You mean if I hit it right on the money at 78% you wouldn't have posted). Lol...again thanks for furthing my point.
     
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  7. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    ddagne,
    First of all, I want to express my sorrow for what must have been a traumatic experience for you.
    Second thing, I'm grateful that you seem to take driving a motor vehicle on the highways safely, --- seriously. I trust you realize that operating a motor vehicle on the highways is a never ending learning process. The longer we drive, the more we should learn, --- about the character of those with whom we share the highways, and, possibly more importantly, the manner in which we, ourselves, have learned, and put into practice, the skills necessary to safely interact with the other motorists around us on the highways.

    That bein' said, I viewed the video you included with your post. Of all that I saw, the thing that caught my attention almost immediately was something I didn't see. That being you passing any other vehicles. In actuality, you were passed by several other vehicles at what appears to be a much faster speed than you were traveling, which causes me to wonder what speed (mph) you were maintaining at the time.
    I don't know your age or for how long you've been licensed to drive a vehicle on the highways. I'm goin' out on a limb here, but I'm guessin' that you're younger, much younger, than I. Based upon what I've managed to learn from experience, here's what I saw in the video.

    I saw I was a passenger in a vehicle (automobile) traveling in the second lane from the far right lane at a slower speed than the rest of the traffic in the vicinity. I saw quite a few autos passing the slower vehicle in the lanes on the left side, as well as vehicles passing while in the far right lane, --- a lane intended for slower traffic and those merging on and/or off the highway. The far right lane isn't intended to be used for passing vehicles in the lanes to the left of the far right lane because it sets the stage for a potentially serious mishap.

    I observed a Big truck traveling in the far right lane, pulling a tank trailer, pass the slower vehicle in the second from the far right lane at what I'd estimate to be 5 to 10 mph faster than the passenger vehicle being passed. I also observed said Big truck wander into the second lane from the far right lane, while along side and slightly ahead of the slower vehicle traveling in the second lane from the far right.

    I don't know what lane restrictions for Big trucks are applicable in that particular area, but I'm thinkin' Big trucks could be restricted to the two right lanes, with a hefty fine for operating in the lanes to the left of the second from the far right lane. Considering that the Big truck exited the highway, it's likely that, even if there were no lane restrictions for Big trucks, it wouldn't have been advisable under the circumstances to pass the slower vehicle using the left lane(s), --- for safety reasons as well as improper/inappropriate road manners.
    My hunch is that the Big truck tanker-yanker driver was makin' pretty good time when said driver came upon slower movin' traffic, probably while runnin' in the second lane from the far right, same lane as the passenger vehicle runnin' slower than the flow of traffic. Knowin' the exit was just ahead, and not wantin' to pass the passenger vehicle on the left, -- only to cut back in front of that vehicle to merge over yet another lane in order to make the exit.

    Instead, the tanker-yanker elected to merge into the far right lane, not only settin' up for the exit, but also providin' an opportunity to do two things:
    1. Pass the slower travelin' passenger vehicle
    and
    2. Send a subtle message to the unknown driver.

    Both were accomplished.
    Number 1 was obvious.
    Number 2 came in the form of a passin' Big truck yankin' a tanker,--- skoochin' over into your lane.
    Roughly translated, the intended message would be somethin' like:
    HeY!
    WakE UP!
    PaY AttentioN
    Git with the flow
    Or GiT-GO.
    You're creatin' a traffic hazard.


    In the right, --- or in the wrong.
    Just because what'cher doin' ain't wrong
    Doesn't necessarily mean it's always all right to doit.

    Highway studies have discovered that a vast number of vehicle highway crashes were the result of overly aggressive drivers driving that way--- probably agitated as well.
    Mixin' those two conditions together isn't wise.
    Preventing those conditions from surfacing in the first place is everyone's responsibility.
    If one's actions on the road are contributing to another's agitated aggressiveness behind the steerin' wheel,
    even if one's actions aren't illegal, one should be the better person by removing their presence from the situation.
    Fanning the fumin' flames puts everyone else on the road around you at risk.

    Lessons can come in many forms and can be delivered in unique and/or unexpected ways.
    What's absolutely necessary is that
    the message of a lesson delivered, --
    be received,
    be understood,
    and most importantly,
    be accepted
    --- or rejected, ---
    as being that of which one chooses to accept/acknowledge to be that of the Truth.
    Above all else, to thine own self, -- be true.
    :)
     
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