Why the hydraulics?

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Sarabeara, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. Sarabeara

    Sarabeara Medium Load Member

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    I've heard that Plains, and CSI are telling new drivers coming on that
    they won't let them run without hydraulics. Anyone here know why? I'm about a month
    away from rigging up another truck, is this something that the oil companies are starting
    to pressure the trucking companies to do?
    I just rigged my newest truck as usual, Direct Drive.
    It seems to unload pretty quick... whats wrong with Direct Drive?
    I've just come off from Plains, so - this was news to me.
     
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  3. Pinner

    Pinner Medium Load Member

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    I heard the same today
     
  4. Sarabeara

    Sarabeara Medium Load Member

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    Ya, I'm starting to think I should just put Hydraulics on and be done with it. But Sheesh! Its getting expensive!
    I was thinking I don't wanna rig up another truck DD to be told I can't get on a site.
    I'm still wondering what the purpose is...
     
  5. Licensed to kill

    Licensed to kill Heavy Load Member

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    I believe it's in the name of "safety". Somebody MIGHT climb under the truck while the pump is running and get caught up in the PTO shaft.
     
  6. Sarabeara

    Sarabeara Medium Load Member

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    Im trying to figure out what I'm doing under my truck with the shaft spinning away.
    I cant believe somebody would be stupid enough to crawl under there while its pumping. Now we get to spend
    more money on rig ups.
     
  7. mhallam

    mhallam Light Load Member

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    I know Gibsons has required it for new rig ups, or the alternative is if your going direct drive, is to hook up a pressure shutdown system, in the event the riser valve is closed, or closes and your pump pressure hits a certain PSI, it is tied to your trucks ECM and shuts the truck down.
    There are pressure monitors you can view your pressures. I have heard this system costs around 5-6K to install, and does work, they have 3 different sensors to put in, heavy oil, condy, and light oil sensors.

    I know when I heard Gibsons was mandating it a few years back, it would only be a matter of time til others followed suit, seems like thats how things go in the patch, 5 years ago, we were told 4 Head h2s monitors are now required, and now almost every company requires it on their leases.

    I know of at least one person a year being sucked into their PTO shafts, usually killed, or maimed, and in all the years I ran direct drive PTO shafts, I wouldn't even crawl under the truck with it running, let alone engaged. Just the air dryer discharging could blind you I am sure, but some people get rushed, 15loads a day, gotta go, gotta go and make bad decisions, or maybe, just no common sense.... that seems rampant at times... LOL
     
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  8. Sarabeara

    Sarabeara Medium Load Member

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    Crawling underneath my truck is the last thing i want to do. I too heard of a guy a few years ago up at Connacher, I think Great Divide who was hurt pretty bad. Then... he got banned off the site! Talk about a bad day!
    Well, looks like im putting hydraulics on my next truck. Is that what you have on your truck? I'm guessing i'll have to come up with that extra dough. Meanwhile, our rates keep getting lower.
     
  9. mhallam

    mhallam Light Load Member

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    Yes I made the jump this spring/summer when I upgraded my units to all rear deck mount hyrdraulics, I heard rumours of -40 issues in the winter, but I switched the oil to a winter hydrex blend, and haven't had any issues yet, even in the -35 over the holidays. Happy so far, expensive to rig up, but on the next truck, just cut the U bolts and move the unit over, new hoses and good to I think.
     
  10. itsneversafe

    itsneversafe Light Load Member

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    I think the new issue is spill stops and deadheads blowing up the pumps. All our ropers are mandated to have pressure bypasses on the direct pumps now. And they are pushing for hydraulics even on our tandem quads.
     
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  11. mhallam

    mhallam Light Load Member

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    I will admit, being the first winter since going to hyrdaulics, engaging the pump while standing right there is quite nice, especially when trying to load frozen trailers first thing, you can engage and watch the pressure gauge climb, your load hose start to stretch out, then dis-engage and try it again, until its broke free. Same goes with pushing into a set up riser, engage, pressure up slightly, disengage, then keep trying until its free.
    My hydraulics are set to kick out at 80psi, my slinky hoses are tested at 375, and rated for 250 I think, so 80 is way under their limit, and I hate pumping against pressure, we used to unload at a skid by swan hills, 125lbs at idle, we were replacing PTO's every 6-8 months, carried 10lbs of shearbolts and there were enough hoses blown there, it was paved almost.. LOL hated that.
     
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