Will the new labor rule on 70hrs actually create more or less trucking jobs?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by futuretruckertx, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    In my humble opinion on the matter I think things aren't what they seem. For instance, is the purpose of this safety? Or is this political? Is it too create more jobs? Or is it to get rid of experienced drivers?

    The cost of freight will probably never go up ... Cause if it does it will affect the American ppl ... And if it does the driver will always be on the bottom of the food chain. Thus pay for drivers will keep getting lower, because no one is going to want a cut ... Especially not the companies, cause now they'll need more trucks/drivers to keep their business alive ...

    Whoever is out there reading this and has some sort of power within the FMCSA world ... You're intentions may be sincere but there is a bigger picture here to consider. Are we going forward as a country? Or is this some sort of dropped wrench into the cogs of progress? If you are going to regulate drivers in the name of safety then truly care about the drivers opinions because one day the camel will say no more.

    Regardless of what the intentions of those in power, I won't let them affect my life. I will log it legal cause I don't like to give my money for free unless its someone in need ... Pay a $5000 ticket for the benefit of a mismanaged government. No sir. I'll continue to live humbly until the day I get a good idea for an invention or something, then I'll gladly pay you $5000 for whatever it may be ...

    We are all part of this society. WE THE PEOPLE, remember ... What affects one affects us all ...

    What is the government truly trying to accomplish? I guess we will just have to stay tuned...
     
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  3. sharecropper

    sharecropper Light Load Member

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    How about this, "The Truck Safety Coalition thinks the new rules aren't strict enough" A lot of old truckers that have been trucking for years are going home and parking their rigs and the roads are full of new drivers out of some school thinking he is going to get rich and one old driver said he was making a living backing trucks into parking spots at a local truck because the new driver can't back.
     
  4. RickG

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    Explain how. Driving 10 hours a day in 7 days would use the whole 70 available in 8 . All on duty time for inspections , fueling , loading , and unloading would take away from available drive time .
     
  5. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Monday you pretrip and load in 15 minutes ? No posttrip ? It has been determined no posttrip inspection is required but time to write a written report is .
    So you loaded once and never unloaded at all during the week ? You must have some bodacious fuel tanks . 77 hours driving would be over 4,000 miles and you only fueled once .
     
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  6. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Road Train Member

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    I personally think they meant work rather than drive, but the math is off since you can work 84 hours in 7 days if you take a reset after five 14 hour days and only take exactly 10 off each night. I've done 82 work hours, not driving, in 7 days before never being on duty past my 14. I run into my 14 almost every day though since I unload more than I drive most days. It's a rare day for my 11 to be up first.
     
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  7. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    i didnt write a detailed thing because knowing this forum, no good deed goes unpunished

    however, the purpose was to show you can drive over 70hrs per week

    i typically fuel in the morning, and load/unload combined either with a prettrip (if you dont, then you cannot ever work over 70hrs a week)

    i have, and as have others

    legally
     
  8. J_FROG

    J_FROG Road Train Member

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    Unfortunatly that's not true. Once you take a 34 hr break and log a reset your week starts all over again, so you doesn't matter wether you worked 10 hrs or 90 you have a fresh slate after the 34 hr break. That will of course all be different starting July 1.
     
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  9. Trucker Bug

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    I never knew you could go 82 hrs a week before. We were always bound by the 70 hour rule.

    Wont change a thing for me
     
  10. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Road Train Member

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    That's kind of the point they make, that you won't be able to do it anymore. They weren't saying the regulations let you work over 70/8 itself, they're saying you can physically work more than that in a week period with the current, nearly gone, regulations utilizing the current reset. In a real time week, you can work more than 70, that's all they're saying.

    Honestly, I think it's just a difference of how we're looking at it. I consider a week a real time week. I really don't care where my logs fall in that as far as how I mentally figure a week. You base it off your logs. Just different views of the week. It's probably different for me as well since I generally am running my hours out in five days and I usually stay home 48 anyways so my work week and a real time week usually line up. The article, most likely being written by someone who doesn't drive, probably considers a week 7 days and not how logs play into that mindset.
     
  11. sharp.dressed.man

    sharp.dressed.man Heavy Load Member

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    I think it's much ado about nothing.

    All it will mean is more people running on recap. Then again I'm assuming most of the current drivers who actually go out to work and not hang around the TS whining and lying are already running on recap.

    To mr outlaw: next time you pass a reflective surface say hi to one of the guys responsible for the regulation changes.
     
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