Will this affect my license?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by lillady2021, May 1, 2023.

  1. lillady2021

    lillady2021 Bobtail Member

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    Today I was pulled over by a state officer in Kentucky. I did not see the “no left turn sign” and made a left turn. He also said 2 of my logs was not certified!!!

    he told me he was not giving me a citation, there are no citation numbers listed on the driver/vehicle examination report. It is listed as an level 3 inspection. He said I had to sign the inspection form, Carrier had to sign it and send it back within 15 days.

    my carrier knows… they seen the report. They did not say anything about it going against me, no talk of any safety points or classes!!! Do I need to contact legal advice or??


    I am still a new driver only a year and a half in. No other issues… no accidents, not been pulled over, no tickets, nothing!! Very clean record.
     
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  3. Thrasher28

    Thrasher28 Road Train Member

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    Were those violations listed on the inspection? I’m assuming so since they’re requiring it signed and returned. No legal advice is going to get you out of a violation on an inspection like that. It will not go on your MVR if no citations or written warnings, but the infractions will go on your PSP. Those violations alone probably won’t be an issue for you in your career, but yes, your employer and potential future employers will take note of those things as your PSP points also affect the company.

    I had two moving violations listed on an inspection and was also cited. Fought the citations in court and got them dropped.. sadly, my PSP still shows the violations with a little note that says the state verdict was amended. So, it really didn’t do any good except keep my MVR clean
     
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  4. lillady2021

    lillady2021 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you so much Thrasher28!! I really hope it doesn’t affect me in the future with switching companies. The violations was listed on the inspection report
     
  5. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Anytime you get an inspection and get that form, any violations listed will go on the company CSA score and also on your PSP. If that's all you have, I wouldn't worry about it. Just be more vigilant and don't miss those signs. And certify your logs from the day before first thing when starting your new day.
     
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  6. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    No ticket no license problem.....
    But could someone explain to me...,What? Certifying your logs means??
     
  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    On paper logs, you signed saying your entries are true and correct. On an ELD, certifying does the same thing.
     
  8. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Thanx I’m old not qualified to use electronics:rolleyes:
     
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  9. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I'm going to give you specific instructions on how to handle this. Read my words very carefully. You say your carrier, OK, but what you need to do is go sit down and have a conversation with somebody in your safety dept. If you are on the road and can't easily get into a terminal then request to be routed into a terminal ASAP. Ask that same question to this safety person. This is important for two reasons. First, you can have some peace of mind and the safety person can also make a note in their carrier records you were spoken to. You were given a North American Roadside Inspection Report that contained violations that did not have state citations attached to them. As @kemosabi49 correctly stated these violations will affect the carrier's CSA scores for the next 3 years. This will not have any bearing on your driving record. Now, one last item. If you need follow-up training on how to properly use the logging system then get it ASAP. Oh, one more thing about CSA scores. If you are driving for one of those companies that has higher than normal scores be careful to make sure you are crossing every T and doting every I. You have a target on you! Before my granddaughter was born I was speaking to a DOT officer I know over breakfast. He told me that the Virginia DOT was told by higher-ups in Richmond to key on several carriers because of their scores.

    @brian991219 might have more to add, but I can't express hard enough how critical it is to run 100% legal! Keep the permits and logging current and legit!
     
  10. 4wayflashers

    4wayflashers Road Train Member

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    One way to ensure you always certify, assuming you youre using an omnitracs or a Qualcomm (not 100% sure of Qualcomm) is to put yourself on duty before starting your day. I usually do 3-5 minutes on duty. My omnitracs wont let you change duty without asking you to certify previous days.

    It seems you handled yourself well to get a break on a log violation.

    Another thing many drivers overlook with elogs is not entering BOL # on every trip.

    One place I pick up at frequently we dont know the BOL # until we are at the guard shack on the way out. It’s rare I see a driver take the 30 seconds after being handed his bills to enter the 20 digit number. It’s always the same routine. I see bills get handed to driver and off they go, 2 turns and they’re on the interstate with an incomplete log book. Plenty long driveway to stop and fill in the information to be legal. Probably not an hangable offense but it’s so common I thought I’d mention it.
     
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  11. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    What do they mean by being a”Certified” log ? Never heard of this. Isn’t ELD electronically in the system ? I run just a paper log “time sheet”, put down the time I start and stop and total hours for the day. I’m local so I’m luckily exempt. One of the carriers I haul for have all ELD’s on there trucks, but I’ve never heard them discuss about being “Certified”.
     
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