winter-fronts, why are they no longer needed or used?

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  1. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    long before i had my CDL i worked for a trucking company in the wash bay. my responsibilities included washing food grade tankers. i would get inside the tankers and hose them out, drop the CIP spray ball and sanitize with 190 degree water. i would also wash the outside of the tankers and the tractors, this was 2001-2003 or so. at the time the company's fleet comprised of T800 with CAT engines. i remember every winter they would install winter fronts, that was a cover that went over the grill. trucks no longer require those. i was wondering what changed that they are no longer used.

    i had an interest in driving back then but i was too young at the time. i didnt just wake up one day and say i wanted to drive truck, i was around allot of trucks prior to getting a CDL-A
     
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  3. Omega1

    Omega1 Heavy Load Member

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    Modernized equipment has made them virtually unnecessary unless you are running one of the older trucks.
     
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  4. SteerTire

    SteerTire Road Train Member

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    I can’t give you an answer to that. But can tell you that Freightliner was tagged by the EPA a few years ago. For too high of heat reading in the engine compartment. They were forced to make some adjustments
     
  5. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Global warming makes winter fronts obsolete.
     
  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    At normal running operation, the new engines run plenty warm enough outside of extreme cold temps. Since idling is discouraged, and most have APU's, they're just not really needed or desired unless the temps are regularly down below +10f, and even then they're not really needed unless you idle for cab heat.
     
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  7. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

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    Mine goes on at -25 to make my beauty sleep cozy. Otherwise no need if you going to keep moving
     
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  8. dclerici1

    dclerici1 Medium Load Member

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    One item that made the winter front obsolete is the fan clutch. Also advancements in thermostat and water pump designs, the installation of the charge air cooler in front of the radiator contributed.
     
  9. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    my winter front was a piece of cardboard ! (redneck style):hello2:
     
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  10. 25(2)+2

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    We have them, but I don't put it on until I expect the temp to stay below 10 degrees F. It comes off when it gets warmer than low 20s.

    Snaps were lost on the last truck when the grill had to be replaced, so I never used one last winter after getting it back.
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    I think the biggest reason you don't see them on any company trucks is because it'd still be there in June, maybe I'm wrong about that. Newer motors are getting enough fuel they stay warm on their own.
     
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