Worst Part of pulling End-Dumps

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  1. Eaton18

    Eaton18 Road Train Member

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    Now that's the truth..:biggrin_25519:
    PM back at ya'
     
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  3. Eaton18

    Eaton18 Road Train Member

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    Tried to send you a PM Snowy, but it seems your mailbox is full. Try emptying it. So in light of that here's what I tried to send to ya'

     
  4. Cat sdp

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    Tell your cheap xxx boss to put a liner in that trailer. Or next time the load will go out the back or the side! Most asphalt plants around here won't let you in the bodies no matter what . Good luck
     
  5. snowwy

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    actually, the left and right method don't dump as good. and has a tendency for one heck of a headache. :yes2557:
     
  6. snowwy

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    we use diesel fuel for asphalt.

    our beds are shaped in such that we can climb in and out. most of the end dumps around here have rebar brackets welded for a ladder.

    i've noticed lately that some are even welding rebar across the tail lights to keep them from getting knocked in.
     
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  7. Eaton18

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    Left side.jpg

    This is my truck/trailer. I don't know if you can see it, but there is a factory ladder on the left rear, along with one on the left front corner. I use the left-rear ladder to get in and out of the trailer. The front one is used to climb up, adjust the tarp or open and close the "dust can".

    We do haul some cold-mix asphalt, and spray the bed with a diesel fuel like substance.
     
  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    with the spread axle. i don't see why they would be loading it front heavy.

    i d idn't see any pics you claim to have posted. do you have any with the bed up?

    and what do you guys haul with them things.

    around here. these are the only end dump trailers that get used.

    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&sid=72770&ad=21644547
     
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  9. Eaton18

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    They're attached to my initial post.. http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...st-part-of-pulling-end-dumps.html#post2765137

    They're not suppose to load us heavy in the front, however this quarry doesn't treat their help well. You should hear what goes on. Their boss drives around the area in a pickup, and is constantly berating them. They use CB radios. Only once have I heard him compliment them. So anyway they're not you're "experienced" loader-operators. They have had a couple, but would you stay with them very long?

    This is the normal loading... either overloaded from the get-go, or very light, so you have to have more put on. Then your overloaded, so you must go dump some off. They don't let you out unless you're scaling legal. I don't like just dumping off, because your load will shift to the back of course. Now you can be too heavy on the rear. So I will raise the bed enough to use some gravity, then get the shovel out, and start pulling the material off. It's really not that hard to do, just time consuming. When I first started working for them, I would try and get the max load. This would cause me to get into a Too-heavy, Too-Light loop per-say. However after seeing that once you get around 25 ton, the extra 2-3 ton only increases your pay by $5, it's not worth the time. So if I hit the scales and am grossing at least 80k, I take it and go. Less then that it can be more difficult for them to overload you when adding more.

    The loaders are equipped with scales, so after weighing empty, we tell the loader how much we need. We can tell them for instance, 26.5 tons, and end up with 24 or 28. It's real nice when you roll across the scale and they get it right though.
     
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  10. theroller

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    A plastic liner would probably help.
    If you want some information or specifics I can try and answer your questions in this thread. Can get them heavy duty that are capable of handling hot asphalt.


    EDIT:

    Sorry just read the end of your post that says your boss will not pay for the liners. Having that liner in there will save money by not having to waste time shoveling out the bed or cleaning up the box.

    Depending on the thickness of the liner it can add about 400-800 pounds.
     
  11. Eaton18

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    Yep, that extra weight is what the boss doesn't want. 800# is not going to take that much away from the bottom line. However since he will not pay us for the time spent shoveling there's really no "real" comparison. If he would pay us, he would see just how much less-expensive the liners are.

    Just got my pay for this last week, where I spent the time shoveling... ZERO, $00.00 for shoveling. I'd say that pretty much confirms that even some little companies that require the 2yrs experience are not much different than the mega-fleet, BFIs. The O/Os that are leased on, they do not carry shovels on their trucks. Guess it's not in their contract to shovel out material.
     
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