Would you buy a truck with a MaxxForce engine if.....?

How can it be the perfect truck if you can't keep it out of the shop?

 

Regardless of the make, one of the biggest problems I see is that many problems that occur with these engines is the lack of the driver reading the manual on how they should be operated. I have seen problems with Detroits, ISX's, and Maxxforce engines with the company trucks at my carrier. In many instances, when talking with shop personnel, the driver was not operating the engine properly, especially when it came to DPF issues.

I own an '06 International, and really have not dog in this hunt. But I do like to keep tabs on what mechanics are saying at my dealership regarding the Maxxforce. They really have not seen any more issues going on than any other brand of engine. yeah, it can be a pain to work on because of the layout of the engine, but it really isn't a problem child of an engine. Like was stated by Dutch, it has had issues in the past, but Navistar seems to be getting a handle on things. The engine did make the JD Power top satisfaction rating, for whatever that is worth.

I like International trucks. Especially when I drove in Alaska for 10 years. When spec'd right, they are very reliable truck and a good bang for the buck. I am cautious though, about the Maxxforce. When I finally decide to get another truck, I will have to see if they have most of the bugs worked out of the engines and how reliable they have become. It will be a real deciding point on whether i stay with International or not.

 

But you presume that the truck will always be in the shop. Are you psychic also? I know of several O/O that have Prostars and are not in the shop any more than anyone else. Since the focus of this thread is about the Maxxforce and not the model of truck, there is no real world evidence that the current crop of Maxxforce engines are having way more problems than any other brand. If they were, I would see trucks with these engines stacked up at my dealer waiting for service. That is not the case.

Like most, I am a little leary of the heavy use of EGR vs SCR for the emissions. Will have to wait and see how that plays out in the long run.

 

I just listen to our company drivers. Volvos, Freightliners, Petes and Internationals go into the shop for up to 3 weeks maybe get fixed right maybe not, some don't even get the trailer off the lot before something else fails and it's back to the shop.

We've had brand new trucks delivered that couldn't leave our lot, at one time we had over 10 just sitting in a corner waiting for whatever fix.

No thanks... I'll stay pre emission and out of the shop.

 

My current attitude is I would rather spend money keeping a pre-emissions truck on the road than spend money fixing problems associated with unnecessary and immature emissions control technology. Especially since those technologies tend to increase complexity and fuel consumption for no good reason other than to satisfy politicians. Caterpillar was run out of the truck engine business entirely by this insanity.

 

I take that one step further. Buy a brand new truck with a pre-emissions engine in it. That is a viable and LEGAL option. Only California has a problem with it.

 

Well, I have a problem with California!

But even if I bought a new glider kit, nobody builds "classic" trucks anymore. Even Peterbilt went all aerodynamic with the 389. You can't even get a 379 glider kit anymore.

 

Please show me where Peterbilt has gone to lengths to make the 389 more aerodynamic as I disagree it is more aerodynamic. If anything, Peterbilt made it unaerodynamic by increasing the hood length.

KH

 

if nobody went to california maybe thing's might change when they get alittle hungry lol