Would you hook straps this way?

""",As the name implies, a trailer’s rub rails are designed to “rub” against other objects (walls, highway barricades, etc.), absorb the impact, and protect the trailer from damage. Perhaps more importantly, they’re also designed to protect the chains, straps, and ropes commonly used to secure cargo on the trailer. By routing such tiedowns between the rub rail and the deck of the trailer, the driver can protect the tiedowns from impacts to the side of the trailer.
Recognizing the important role that rub rails can play in keeping cargo secure, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) adopted a rule in 2002 requiring drivers to route tiedowns inboard of the rub rails “whenever practicable.” The rule was also adopted in Canada as part of the North American Cargo Securement Standard.
Enforcement problems with the new rule became apparent soon after the agency started enforcing it. Many carriers were faced with a difficult choice: route tiedowns inboard of the rails and attach them directly to the underside of the trailer, potentially risking improper securement, or attach them using standard industry practices and risk being issued a fine or being placed out of service by enforcement personnel who have a different interpretation of “practicable.”
Noting that tiedown failure caused by trailers rubbing against fixed objects is “extremely rare,” the FMCSA decided in 2005 that removing the rub-rail rule would not detract from highway safety and would make enforcement more consistent. Despite objections from Canadian officials, the FMCSA issued a final rule in June 2006, rescinding the prohibition on routing tiedowns outside the rub rails.""""""




from jj keller

 

and there ya go

 

I think we are talking about different things here. The rule i specifcally posted says to only hook to the rub rail when no other option is available. You are talking about routing securement outside the rub rail. 2 different things.

 

Son you are totally confused, that link you posted references nothing about not hooking to a rubrail, it only references being inside the rubrail, but that has been rescinded. So keep grabbing at straws, but you really shouldn't try to outwit folks who have doing this longer than you have been alive

 

I've seen some portable devices for flat hooks that clip into the winch track. I know someone posted a pic of them somewhere around here but I can't find it. I suppose that would work if you rubrail doesn't have a wll and you want to cover your butt.

Edit: found a pic.

 

Don't belittle me, if the rule was rescinded,then why is the rule still on the fmcsa page with an update of just over a year ago?

 

If a forklift runs into my trailer we are fixing to have a problem, please do not allow forklifts to run into your trailers, they may later think it's okay to rub on mine.

 

http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ps-outside-frame-rail-yes-or-no.238337/page-2

post 11 is Skateboardman's post from 2014. The FMCSA is moved their website around so a lot of links are dead but he copied the content of the link into his post.

Another source that states the regulation was recended june 22, 2006.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title49-vol5/pdf/CFR-2011-title49-vol5-sec393-104.pdf

193.104(f)
Use of tiedowns.
(1) Tiedowns and
securing devices must not contain
knots.
(2) If a tiedown is repaired, it must be
repaired in accordance with the appli-
cable standards in paragraph (e) of this
section, or the manufacturer’s instruc-
tions.
(3) Each tiedown must be attached
and secured in a manner that prevents
it from becoming loose, unfastening,
opening or releasing while the vehicle
is in transit.
(4) Edge protection must be used
whenever a tiedown would be subject to
abrasion or cutting at the point where
it touches an article of cargo. The edge
protection must resist abrasion, cut-
ting and crushing.
[67 FR 61225, Sept. 27, 2002, as amended at 71
FR 35833, June 22, 20

Notice no mention of rubrail at all.

 

forget it. Ill do it my way, you do it yours. I know my way works. Neither way is wrong, Im just trying to point out the discrepancy in what is accepted and what the website specifically states.