Wrong BOL Weights, tell dispatch?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by RustyChops41, May 2, 2018.

  1. Plantfoam

    Plantfoam Medium Load Member

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    Yeah I love it when the bills say 39k and my gross is 79k. Then the next load is 43k and I scale at 77k.

    Rule #1 of the road...trust no one
     
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  3. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    It's just a couple pallets of Marijuana that won't be on the BOL.
     
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  4. Baty Dispatch

    Baty Dispatch Light Load Member

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    Again, the only answer is It depends on what you are hauling and how the rate is set up. That's what you have to find out and by finding that out you have to tell your dispatch that the weight is off.
     
  5. RustyChops41

    RustyChops41 Light Load Member

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    If it happens again next time, I'll just let dispatch know and they can deal with it as they choose. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
     
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  6. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Who hauls loads paid by weight and doesn't get shipped weight and received weight from scales at the shipper and the receiver?

    It's a full load regardless. Don't worry about the bol being off on the weight. As long as the case count matches what's in the wagon that's all that really matters. Long as your weights are legal when you cross the scale it's all good.
     
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  7. Baty Dispatch

    Baty Dispatch Light Load Member

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    If a company driver sees a discrepancy they should tell their dispatcher.
     
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  8. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    You really think it necessary even when it is 1 pick 1 drop? Whether or not the truck is cubed out or grossed out the order is for however much product. Just roll with it. Dispatch isn't going to do anything more than ask if the case count or pallet count matches what's in the trailer (if you counted it while they loading it). Beyond that. No difference.
     
  9. x1Heavy

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    Long ago, Im reaching way back here. I sit and counted a number of childrens bicycles loaded onto the floor in the reefer serving as a van for that run into a warehouse in Landover (East of DC) I believe, a distributor for toys r us or some such big stuff. back then.

    I came up with a count. Forkift man came up with another count. About oh.. 11 bikes off. This is after something like 6 hours loading and it's due tomorrow morning. What a problem. Do we unload every bike and go through and recount all of it? Forget tomorrows appointment at that time.

    Shipper load and count sign on the bills? That did not exist back then where I was. So I signed it with my count.

    The following morning when everything was all out of that trailer 11 short, seal was good. That came close to about 900 dollars that is now to be paid by guess who. Me. The reason is that after all the yelling, the warehouse man who represented the final buyer had a specific order of children bikes that was a specific number. And that number was not on that trailer on my 5th wheel. They had to find a way to get the other 11 bikes over there to get it to all the stores waiting for bikes.

    Water under the bridge.

    The situation improved greatly when bills began to be signed and sealed shipper load and count. But that seal on the back of the trailer is now same as that of the equal weight of the seven seals in revelations that must match and be opened by the suit in the customers warehouse.

    When a OSD issue came up, over, short or damaged, we had a nice office person take care of that with a satellite message or a phone call.

    I don't know where they find such people to exist in this blessed world of details down to the last tenth of a pound in weight for meats specific to order or perhaps 6 count box of stick butter in a pallet that is 5 cases short. How do they live is the bigger question.

    I was to improve in load counts over the years when I stood back there and counted everyone with a finger print. 1,2,3 4 etc. As the count numbers got larger... whew.

    The biggest and most precise counting ever which I think is a 11th circle of Dante';s Hell if you please, would be the McCormick House of spices out of say Baltimore, Hunts Valley. Shipper load and count.

    May be a few days to load it, bobtail wherever dont come back until such a such a time and date.

    Upon arrival to sysco in say Elmira, Horseheads area, open the doors. smell the spices and it's sort of like break fast without the food and some of that is expensive. Don't believe me? Go to any store that sells branded McCormick Spices and count the individial items in the little glass bottle and then eyeball that 15 or 20 plus dollar price. Some of that is and capable of being used as a form for medicine when done right. (IM not a tree hugger or nature lover or any of those nuts. But I have learned that the body does require certain things in times of trouble and if you happen to have it on the shelf, it will save you a doctors visit)

    Anyway there I am sitting in Sysco handed a pile of paper about a foot thick, 21 inches across at the top and maybe oh.. 14 inches deep a page. For my particular load as transmitted by the shipper which must now be marked off against what is in that trailer and then manually challenged against the buyers order. This was before computers.

    It's actually by early computers. Dot matrix printers for that type of work were fast and big. Much faster and bigger than you could ever afford to get for the home. And the computers driving the data were probably DOS or a different machine language for which I am not familiar, Unix, win2000 etc or even stacks of punch cards I don't know. Dos is the earliest that I am reliable in those days at. But there were computers before then or around the same time in business of that kind.

    I remember a few shippers cursing the craploa pos early computer slowly wheezing out a print while the load to leave now got later and later and later by the hour waiting on the #### thing to finish. We had then in those years laser printers that literally burnt the information and threw 5000 pages at you in 5 minutes. If you had it. But it's pricey. And many warehouses just did not put in the money for that fancy stuff.

    Something like 6500+ individual items on that trailer. Im halfway through it now it's noon, reefer is running on a hot summer day with doors open to keep people happy (Talk about cooling the outside with a few gallons of fuel.. if my parents ever see that ....) they bring in 6 or so people to count mark off those pesky little containers. So that we can at least get this thing empty and gone soon because Senaca Lakes Akzo salt is due to close in a few hours and it's needed back into maryland straight down 6 and 15 overnight.

    (So much for ELD in this situation, you picked up previous day, drove all night, got a nap spent all day unloading and driving some more, loaded with 24 pallets of salt in 15 minutes by 10 forklifts racing to you and now you have a overnighter to be in Maryland with that stuff) It just wont work... in today's eld situation for a solo.

    Now do you see where I say you get some sleep next week comes in back in those old days?

    To this day I have delivered all of the McCormick Spices and counted each one perfect. Only because the shipper had to load it perfect. The problem was it's not paid in the unloading and counting. It's just part of trucking. We were paid a percentage and that's all part of it. No lumpers.
     
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  10. driverdriver

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    Worked for a company in North Dakota (refer) we would load potatoes in totes. Company was paid by the ton, never weighed in or out.
    Not typical for a paid by the weight load but it does happen.
     
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  11. Long FLD

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    They probably had the weights for each individual tote, no? That’s how one of our loads is. Each pallet has a ticket on it that has the tare weight, net weight, and gross weight on it.
     
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  12. driverdriver

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    Yep, exactly.
     
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