WTF is up with Diesel Fuel???

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Gazoo, Sep 23, 2007.

  1. Gazoo

    Gazoo Resident Mental Patient

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    North Carolina...eastern part of the state, about 45 minutes from I-95.
     
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  3. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The reason I asked is its likely you would do just as good if not better with some one like Landstar pulling their trailer. And you would get to run your own miles with them.
     
  4. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    Unfortunately, there is no legal rewuirement concerning the payment of surcharges or any legal requirement that the entire amount be paid to the truck. Whatever has been negotianted and agreed to between the parties is the legal standard. And, a fuel surcharge involves two separate legal commitments among the three parties involved. There is one agreement between the shipper and the broker, or trucking company he is leased to. There is a separate agreement between the leasing company, and the leased operator. But nothing in the law requires that both of these commitments work off of the same numbers.

    If a trucking company can collect 30 cents surcharge per mile from the shipper, and only pay the truck 20 cents of that, it is perfectly legal as long as that mnumber is what the various parties have agreed to in the contracts between them. There was a loud uproar on the issue about a year and a half ago, and everyone rralized the price of making the FSC pass through mandatory was having the government stick it's nose into rates and business agreements. The idea of mandatory pass throughs died, shattered on the rock of government interference with free commerce.
     
  5. BobC

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    Because of my ignorance of the laws regarding fuel surcharges, I have to believe that there is a standard from which to derive the proper fuel surcharge for the load & that it must be fraudulent on the brokers side to collect such without passing it all on to the person whose name it was collected in...The person actually paying for the fuel.

    I understand that contracts between the broker & carrier will take precedence and possibly limit the amount of surcharge that the carrier collects.

    But, doesn't it seem fraudulent to you for the broker to negotiate a fuel surcharge based on Fed suggested rates, collect that much, & then beat you out of it since you are the one who is actually paying for the fuel. The broker's not paying for the fuel right? He's just collecting it in the name of an expense that he has not and does not incur upon himself.

    Why should the customer pay extra to the broker for something that the broker is not providing nor is it his responsibility to provide; namely, the fuel?

    I wonder how the customer would feel knowing he got burned for an extra charge that the broker was not entitled to & did not deliver a service or product for?

    I know, I'm probably just peein' in the wind but I just can't help believing there's laws against this type of transaction between the broker & customer, & the broker & carrier.
     
  6. navyeoseabee

    navyeoseabee Bobtail Member

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    yes the 80.00 is high as hell! but believe me the state of OK is pumping to help!!! everywhere!! butthe WTF is capital gain!!! some one says the gas price can jump 50 cents but the diesel price stays the same --"wtf" --so they raise it too!!! not knowing that is why milk ,canned goods, walmart house hould goods are going up to !! so they are ######## about the bills for goods but not noticing that they are charging $3.00 for the shipper per gallon !! maybe a large strike would help every if they parked anything with a engine for 5-7 days !! i bet exon would hate that !! really i am not a tree hugger , i was raised in a house that was heated with wood! and let me tell you it was hot all the time !
     
  7. rex

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    Sorry Bob, no governance here except the law of simple ethics. As always, it is IMPERATIVE to check references regarding anyone you are intending to do business with and whenever possible only do deals with people you already know and trust. Why in the world would you haul for a broker or carrier who didn't pass through 100% of the fsc? Simply ask up front and if the SOB won't put it in writing, then don't sign the paper, simple as that...
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  8. VULCAN1999

    VULCAN1999 World's #1 Grandpa

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    Luckily my Mexican friends can top off their tanks in Mexico for much cheaper price before they come here to deliver a load.
     
  9. TruckingBum

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    3.29 a gallon in bingdinghampton ny a few days ago ouch to my carrier hope they have a nice:biggrin_2551: fsc program in place
     
  10. Gazoo

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    My carrier is not helping me with the FSC. Fuel goes up $.07, FSC goes up 1 penny two weeks later. :biggrin_25513:
     
  11. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    this is where the law concerning fuel surcharge(s) can be found ... search Google to find the full text.

    In short it is required that the surcharge be passed to the truck in full, it is not at the carriers option to pay less. As always, research the actual laws and make your own conclusions.

    with a proper FSC in place based on 5mpg (as stated in the law), I hope fuel goes up and up. at 6.5mpg for two of my trucks, and 7.5 for the one I drive myself, there is more money left in my pocket the higher the price goes.
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    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    BILL No. HR2161
    To amend title 49, United States Code, to provide a mandatory fuel surcharge for transportation provided by certain motor carriers, and for other purposes.
    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
    This Act may be cited as the 'Motor Carrier Fuel Cost Equity Act of 2001'.
     
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