X chains on coils

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Gunner75, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Stang

    Stang Bobtail Member

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    The entire purpose of edge protection is to protect the securement from damage. The law doesn't care if the cargo gets damaged, unless it allows the securement to loosen and cause the load to be unsecured.
     
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  3. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    When it comes to coil racks or bunks, use an equal number to the securements. 5 chains, 5 racks. that is how I was instructed to load coils. have never had a problem doing this. I have seen where people use less and end up having problems. broken dunnage, shifted loads and some other things. then I tend to go a bit beyond overboard.
     
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  4. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    I've never heard of putting a pad between chains touching.... I cross chain stuff all the time
     
  5. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Ok I did a little research and I sent an email but don't expect a response until next week. I not trying to prove anyone wrong per say just want to be clear on the law (which really should be simple).

    The link you posted is to the codified code and is a "Federal Register by the departments and agencies" which the FMCSA is. It is not its own laws it's a consolidation of laws from all the areas of government. The link I posted is NOT an opinion piece it IS the rule instituted by the FMCSA they have the authority of law. The link you posted was last updated on June 22nd 2006, the FMCSA rule was updated on April 2nd 2014. If you go before a judge he will look at what the ruling agency with jurisdiction has and that's the FMCSA. I'll keep you informed.
     
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  6. Clasix1055

    Clasix1055 Even when I'm wrong I'm right

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    When hauling shotgun coils you are not required to have a pad between chains....your WLL is your lowest rated securement point i.e. if your tie-down point is only rated at 4,000 lbs your chains binders only have a wll of 4,000 ....... you can x all your chains through a shotgun coil you do not have to horseshoe any of them and it does not prevent telescoping....I have loaded 70k coils with four chains x through the middle and 2 straps over the top and been inspected by DOT and never had a problem.
    I saw a Melton driver a couple weeks ago with a 40k coil and he had 10 chains on it.....yes I said 10....I have the capicity to carry up to 86k load weight and I dont even carry 10 chains on my truck....but whatever makes you feel safe is the best way to go
     
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  7. skellr

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    X chains on shotgun coils bug me for some reason. I don't think it's really that strong.
    anglechart.jpg
    This is for lifting but we are basically doing the same thing just the other way, kinda upside down. Figure A looks closer to what you'd get with the horshoe method, from the eye to the deck at 90° that is. An X chain might be closer to figure E.

    The flatter the chain, less of an angle, the weaker it's going to be.
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    The rules may say it's OK but I don't buy it.
     
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  8. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    Well how else would you secure a shotgun coil? Because a horseshoe chain is only good for 1/2 it's wll since you hook from one side, around the article, and then hook it back onto the same side of the trailer.
     
  9. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Horseshoe , trip chain and, secure over the top is what I do. There is more friction there than from X chains. Not saying it's the "right" way, it just feels better to me.
     
  10. Gunner75

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    So the only difference in mine and yours is i have more securement because i do all what you just stated, plus use the x chains.
     
  11. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    I'm just wondering what's so special about X chains. They don't seem to do much good.
     
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