yet another 8 hr/30 minute break question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jabber1990, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. Jabber1990

    Jabber1990 Road Train Member

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    this might be a stupid question but i'm getting conflicting answers so i'll ask here, and if I asked this in the wrong category i'm sure the admins will move it (thanks in advance)

    when you take the break can you do it on Lines 1 and/or 2?

    this guy is saying it can ONLY be done on line 1 (a Caltrans DOT officer told him)

    he also says when Hauling a HazMat load you cannot ever go on line 1 (which is true to a point)

    I know i'm right but he says i'm not, who's right and who's wrong.

    again, I know this is a stupid question and i'm sorry
     
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  3. sherlock510

    sherlock510 Road Train Member

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    You can use line one and two. They are both OFF duty.
    Technically, if you're in the sleeper for ya 30 min break you would log line two..

    Either or, the guy you talked to was full of sh.
     
  4. TomOfTx

    TomOfTx Road Train Member

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    Yes, the 30 minute rest break can be taken as Line 1 Off Duty and/or Line 2 Sleeper Berth. See §395.3(ii).

    You most certainly can log on Line 1 Off Duty while hauling a hazmat load, even one that contains Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 explosive materials that requires the driver (or qualified representative of the motor carrier) to be in attendance of the vehicle at all times under §397.5. Mandatory "in attendance" time may be included in your break time if no other duties are performed. A driver can sit in the driver's seat of a legally parked CMV and log Line 1 Off Duty any time he/she chooses provided no other duties are performed, hauling hazmat or non-hazmat.

    Jabber1990, not a stupid question. I am amazed at how many law enforcement officials a year after the 30 minute rest break requirement became effective still fail to realize that time spent in a sleeper berth is OFF DUTY!
     
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  5. LMB

    LMB "Olde Goat"

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    There is no such thing as a stupid question, some answers though can definitely qualify.
     
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  6. Jabber1990

    Jabber1990 Road Train Member

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    you don't know me very well



    the most annoying thing is the driver who told me this has 30 years experience
     
  7. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Experience doesn't mean jack. A dumb ### doing stupid stuff for 30 years is still a dumb ###.
     
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  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    TomofTX has it spot on! As to the second part, keep in mind there are many "old timers" out there who get a kick from feeding a rookie false information. He probably waddled out to his rig and got right on the CB bragging about the stupid advice another rookie just swallowed up.
     
  9. Jabber1990

    Jabber1990 Road Train Member

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    The guy didn't seem all that bright

    we had to do a re-power (we both went home) we were told to agree on a place to meet, he was unware of any places to stop and meet, he threw his truck stop book away since he had a GPS

    just a few breaths later he said he doesn't like being told where to fuel, he's tired of the company yelling at him for being out of route, he doesn't like how the company at any time knows where he is.

    so, you aren't smart enough to think for yourself but get mad when others think for you?

    he tried to get me to drive further to go to a truck stop that I dont even think exists

    when we met up he did the supertrucker stunt of parking his bobtail right next to his trailer. then he yelled at me for not parking there, in order to back there I would have had to blind-side, or I could have parked 5 spots away where there were 4 open spots and I could have sight-sided in

    then told me it is ILLEGAL to park a trailer at a tankwash
     
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  10. Jabber1990

    Jabber1990 Road Train Member

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    why do they do that?
     
  11. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Low self esteem maybe? Or, they were probably the playground bully when they were a child and haven't had the chance to grow up yet!:biggrin_2559:
     
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