Yet another change is plans. Buy own truck, than lease on or authority????

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BobbyMisc65, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. BobbyMisc65

    BobbyMisc65 Light Load Member

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    If I can get the proper finances in order, I want to buy my own truck (Used!). As a newbie truck driver with zero miles OTR experience (although I do have my CDL-A and have no problem driving a big rig), I think my best plan, and what I really want to do, is to lease on with a company to get my feet wet. I absolutely know/understand that I will go through a learning curve, but I'm willing to try. The more I experience, the more I'll learn - I'm a hard core hands on individual. Also, I'm not concerned about making an income for myself to start off (I'm Army retired and get a good pension), I'm more concerned about making enough to pay the trucking bills and to keep running and of course putting away for future breakdowns, etc.

    Anyway, I"m doing a ton of research online and wanted to get as much advice and opinions from experienced drivers on this forum about what I've read so far.

    1. Once I get my truck, how does one lease on to a company? I'm assuming it's just a matter of calling someone?
    2. Will companies "hire" o/o with little or no driving experience?
    3. What should I be aware of or concerned about when leasing on with a company?
    4. What % does a company usually take from the o/o.
    5. What's a good truck/year to buy - I personally like the Volvo 780
    6. Whats a good company to buy my truck from, should I use Craigslist or eBay?
    7. I don't have a problem getting my own Authority, I've done so much research on this, but is this the route I want to go? I want to start off as simple as possible.
    8. What does a leased on to a company o/o make yearly?
    9. What does a o/o with operating authority make yearly. I've read so many different answers to this and I understand that every driver is different, some will earn more, some will earn less - I know. I would like to find out what the average yearly Gross profit for a NEW driver would be. Is there even an answer to this question? How about this: What did you make as a NEW o/o your first year? :)
    10. Anyone know of any good spreadsheet breakdowns of estimated profit and loss?
    11. Anyone know of a good business plan document I can download or copy or someone who can help in this area?

    Lots of questions, I know. Thanks a ton guys/gals!
     
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  3. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    1st drive a CO. truck you can get $ while learning more.
     
  4. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    The simple fact you have to come on here and ask some of these basic questions should tell you. You are in over your head. Maybe if people would learn the business b4 thinking they can manage one. The success rate would be much higher. You know absolutely nothing about this industry and these companies will eat you alive. Dude if you have money to throw away. Can you put me on your donation list.
     
  5. gokiddogo

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    It is going to be an insurance issue if you are new with zero experience and are hell bent on buying your own truck to drive. If your mind can't be changed about driving someone else's truck, at least in the beginning, make sure you find somewhere that knows you are new and WILL INSURE YOU!

    Have you drawn out a basic expense sheet in order to figure out how much per mile, or per day, however you want to work it, you need in order to be profitable? DO NOT FORGET TO INCLUDE A DRIVER'S WAGE.

    A good truck to buy is one that will make you money. The big shiny truck is nice - IF #1 you can afford it, and #2 know how to make money with it in order to keep it. Try to find something with low miles, one you can get an oil sample on, and that you like. It might not be pretty, but when you see the money you AREN'T spending on a new truck, you will learn to love it. There are many places to find used trucks ... all of them are a gamble. Even a new truck is a gamble anymore ...

    As for percentages, they will be all over the map, most falling into 70-90% to the truck owner. They all have different pay systems - some of them cover your plates, insurance, some pay your tolls, some give you fat fuel discounts - it usually works out about the same in the end.

    I can't at all recommend going straight for your authority. The task of actually driving your truck, maintaining it, dealing with shippers/receivers, and all that highway bullcrap, will make up about 50% of the work you will have to do if you go this route. There is a mountain of regulatory stuff you have to keep up. Nevermind the process of dealing with brokers, setting up your loads, and actually getting them done and on time. If you do not require sleep, that will be a huge help.

    You would be better off finding a deal that works for you, let another company handle all the office work and take care of all your permits and insurance and all that, and let them take what to you is a fair percentage.


    Above all - I have to say what I say to everyone else here - first - go drive someone else's truck, at least for one year, make it through the winter on your own, grind and bump and scrape and make stupid mistakes on someone else's truck - yes, most of us also screwed up in the beginning when we were new. Find out if trucking is really what you want to do - the only way you can decide if you want to own your own is if you get out here and do it.
     
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  6. BobbyMisc65

    BobbyMisc65 Light Load Member

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    Removed stupid comment toward Dinomite. My apologizes.
     
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  7. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    Are you just out of school or going to school?
    how much actual driving experience do you have?

    if you have little to none you would be better off being a company driver learn the ropes then get your truck. You might have issues with no experience and having a truck. Most companies require just as a company driver one year otr experience within the last three years. Doesn't sound like to me you even meet that.
     
  8. Dinomite

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    Only to those who don't want the truth. If you want smoke blown up your tail. I'm sure you can get it, but like I said. This is real deal Holy Field out hear. Cyber Owner Operators only exist on the internet, and don't last long on the road. You can't read about it you live it. This isn't one size fit all. I'm sorry dude if you cry because of the truth I posted. You really will be crying when these companies bend you over no lube. It's just what trucking companies do, and Yes even the ones that are 100 percent owner operators. They probably make more money robbing drivers then they do pulling freight. This business isn't for the faint of heart.
     
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  9. BobbyMisc65

    BobbyMisc65 Light Load Member

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    Hey, thanks for the great reply and advice. I have done a breakdown of possible expenses and profit from what I've learned on the internet. So much conflicting or different information, which I'm beginning to understand. I agree about going with the Authority idea, I want to avoid all the stress of that if I can. And you know, basically I just want to have my very own truck, but I do understand your advice and do agree that using a companies truck will do away with a lot of potential issues/problems.
    Thanks again. Much appreciated.
     
  10. BobbyMisc65

    BobbyMisc65 Light Load Member

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    No I don't or haven't met that requirement. Out of school, I was hired by Swift but was hospitalized within a week of starting for a brain tumor, so I had to put off the driving for quite a while. Just trying to get back into it on my own terms, which I understand may not be feasible, but no harm in learning what I can. Thanks for the reply.
     
  11. BobbyMisc65

    BobbyMisc65 Light Load Member

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    Great advice! You taught me so much...
     
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