Yet another "Swift" move.

Oh but I will.

You're splitting hairs here. And using "whole" numbers.

If you have 10 trucks out of 100 involved in accidents.

You see a 10% rate.

If company B has 9 out of 100.

You see a 9% rate.

Nothing to be concerned about. The companies are too close to call.

I simply use the 9 and the 10. And see that Company B has 10% fewer accidents overall. Do we chalk it up to experienced drivers? Or better training?

While that may seem to be "recruitment" talk to you. And a simple mathematics trick.

We're not playing with stocks. We're playing with lives. And if I can save ONE life out here. I've done my job.

Truth be known. No I don't like Swift. I've had the pleasure of "retraining" their drivers. And listening to the nightmare they call payroll for the new guys.

But the numbers don't lie.

And yes, I agree. W&S does have some high numbers as well. But, when you compare training methods. Most people would agree, W&S should be double what is shown. I'm basing that on the arguments within this forum. From drivers saying there is NO way W&S can train a safe driver that way.

 

Really?

Is THAT all it takes?

How about after getting bad directions....Maybe the driver should look out the ######' window and see what's in front of him/her/it!
I love the way we try to remove the blame from the MORON AT THE CONTROLS of the truck and lay it off on the person that gave directions!

I suppose you're right to a point....It could happen to anyone!

Anyone that was not paying attention.

Or possibly...

Anyone that wasn't qualified to drive a CMV.

 

Since we are now on page 14 just wanted to let people looking at this late in the game it was a down pour and dark. Every driver has gotten his or herself into a bad situation and some just aren't smart enough to get back out of it..

 

That renders them "Unfit To Drive a Commercial Vehichle" in my opinion!

 

If you aren't smart enough to avoid a clearly marked bridge then you aren't smart enough to operate any vehicle! Stop making excuses for the stupid, I would say ignorant but they had a chance at learning. The worst this should have got was he had to have help getting out of the situation, not ran into a ###### low clearance and totalled the rig!

 

I completely agree with you blackw9 and lonewolf. The point I was getting at was alot of good drivers have gotten themselves into some bad spots but they are good enough to get theirselves back out too. I have gotten myself into some bad spots but always have managed to get out. I think it boils down to common sense for me. Not trying to give anyone excuses.

 

I'm still at best a wannabe, but I know you pay attention to the signs. These are the kinds of drivers who lead to more and more government interference.

 

Your statement about the gay and lesbian support team on the side of the truck solidified my assumption that you were not a quality person. That and your incessant need to try and pee higher on the tree than others shows that you are very arrogant.
So just how are you going to save one life anyway? Is it because you are the self proclaimed training messiah, and better than every trainer at Swift? Bold statement for sure sir. And are all of the crashes caused by lack of training? Wait, before you answer is it based on feelings or verifiable facts?
And your math only works if both companies are using the same number of vehicles and driving the same number of miles.
I say that this will not go anywhere useful and I am done with your condescending way of speaking to me. Besides I only have one more day at home before I have to hit the road so enjoy your ignorance. I am on to bigger things.
If you need help on the big words it is called a dictionary. Sorry that was uncalled for but I am a smart-### by nature

 

Retraining ex-Swifties and listening to their horror stories. Well, what do you expect when your company hires Swift rejects who couldn't make it there?

 

I have to finally chime in here.

This accident in my opinion, had nothing to do with training, or the lack thereof. It comes down to the failure to use common sense. If the conditions are so bad that complete concentration was required to just see the road surface...let alone the other factors on all sides...[top, bottom, right side, left side, in front of, and behind]...this truck should not have been moving at all. Throw the 4 ways on and park it until conditions are safe to negotiate the location.

There is no excuse for the accident...it happened, driver failure, for whatever reason!

Swift has a training structure, that for the semi intelligent, is sufficient to begin the process of becoming a safe and successful driver. It is step 2 of the basic course in driving a big rig. It is up to the driver to become more educated, have a greater understanding, and become the truck driver of BW900 standards and experience. I have 16 years on these rigs, one would think ample experience and training, and learning comprehension. Last night I PM'd BW900 for some advice...I wasn't sure about a certain route...so I asked, and got an answer in return.

There is no need to rehash the incident. There is no need to snipe at statistics...no two companies can be compared legitimately...there are simply too many variables in the equation.

Until recently, I had a perfect record...just shy of 3 million miles accident free. that changed in a split second...completely out of my control. In the incident I did everything possible to either avoid the finality, or to lessen the finality. Now I have to live the fact that I am partly involved in the loss of someones life. Even though it was a suicide mission of the other driver...I was still part of the equation...and it bothers me. To see you people of varied experience, different companies, sniping at Swift...or any other company...bothers me too. We are supposed to be on this forum to help other drivers...use these tools we have to pass on information, share knowledge, share experiences, or to help another to not get into these situations.

Give it a rest already!

One last point. These CSA, or Safety-Stat scores are not to be taken as gospel. Did any of you know that statistics from incidents from all companies are not complete? Did you know that through the courts, much information and "statistical history" can be "blocked" from the compilation of the stats?