You run out of hours, not allowed to park on property for your 10

Wrong again

 

Your are correct , between having the oos statue stuck in my head and my companies policy of having to have available hrs. to use PC I quoted incorrectly.
But, after a few phone calls DOT considers dragging an empy trailer as laden and you will be cited.

 

Correct as I just posted I had the oos statue and my co. policy of having to have available hrs. stuck 8n my head. But after a few calls DOT considers an empty trailer as a laden vehicle when it comes to PC.
must be bobtailing to be in compliance.

 

Correct , I went back again today and could only find the somewhat vague guidance.

I had the oos and my co.policy of having to have available hrs to use pc stuck in my head.

 

The important thing is to send messages as these events happen, not after the fact. Don't do it hours after the fact. God forbid you are in a wreck over hours, a judge or jury may be more lenient.

 

Your are wrong and correct so was I.
You can use PC after your 14 has expired but you can't drag an empty trailer and use PC , DOT considers and empty trailer as a laden vehicle.
When I posted I had the oos statute and my co. policy of having to have available hr. to use PC stuck in my head.

So technically that was an illegal move.
Posting this after a few calls to DOT.
again DOT considers that empty trailer as a laden vehicle. Must be bobtailing to be in compliance.

 

Fmcsa will need to put a guidance in the regulations. It does not specifically state if an empty trailer makes the cmv laden.

I suspect you just got that officers interpretation. If you care to be thorough, you should call multiple scale houses from multiple jurisdictions and report back your findings.
@keitht
@Scalemaster
^ these guys still around ?

 

That's what I did.
In addition to that I have one that will be in a conference call today with FMCSA and will ask specifically about leaving a customers property with an empty trailer.
But again the rest have stated that with an empty trailer you will be cited.

 

Matter of fact my first call was directly to FMCSA but when you hit the closest menu promt you get mesgage to contact your local DOT office. Couldn't get a human to answer at FMCSA. Lol

 

Can you ask them if it is in the regulations? It appears unclear as it only says "unladen". Which to me means it is up for interpretation.

I bet it's one of those things where don't abuse the hell out of it and we will look the other way.