Your experience with violating HOS.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TallJoe, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. REO6205

    REO6205 Road Train Member

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    Not in my neighborhood they won't. I know, I know, you hear that all the time. In this case it's true.
    We run on a lot of mountain roads that don't even exist on a map. Dirt roads. Rock roads. Roads that weren't even there the previous day and were purpose built just for a few days hauling.
    Sometimes a road will be used in the Spring and then switched over to a different road going to the same place.
    And...to stay on subject...we've been on elogs for over a year now. We wanted time for the drivers and the office people to adjust to the new system. We ran elogs at a practice level for six months and then switched over full time. It was kind of a steep learning curve and there was some screaming and yelling at first but everybody has it dialed in now.
    As far as HOS...If we have a driver that's half an hour from home and he's running out of hours he has a choice. He can get a motel and supper...which we pay for...or he can bootleg it back to the yard and leave a note for the office so we can "edit" his logs.
    Most of our runs are fairly local and the driver is out and back the same day. Occasionally we have two or three day runs but they're in familiar country and we know how to schedule them
    We rarely run over hours and haven't had to do any editing yet. And honestly, we would if we had to.
    In talking to the drivers, they're more in favor of running back to the yard than staying out. The drivers have tightened up their trip planning a little and so has the office.
    I don't envision many problems.
     
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  3. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Almost sounds like your in the radius exemption most of the time, if so why have elog?
     
  4. REO6205

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    Several reasons. The biggest plus is that it really helps out on the book-keeping. The beancounter ladies in the office like that. If the office ladies aren't happy nobody is happy.
    The drivers get paid from what's on their logs and that simplifies payroll. The drivers didn't like it at first but they found out that the system was honest. If there's a question we sit down and go over the readouts. So far, nobody has been shorted any pay.
    Elog also keeps track of the mileage, fuel usage, and several performance perameters. The drivers like that because all they do is enter the information at the start and end of each day.Just takes a couple of minutes.
    We'd fall under the local exemption part of the time but we decided it was easier all around to just go to elogs.
    At our last BIT inspection the DOT guy was really impressed with how it easy it was to call up all the information he needed.
     
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  5. windsmith

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    Yes, you absolutely can plan ahead.

    When I was OTR, I planned for 10 hours of drive time. If I could get 11 hours in, then I was able to get ahead of the game. If I ran into problems, I still had that 11th hour to use to compensate.

    Google maps shows you real time traffic. You should be checking that real time traffic over your route every 15 minutes, noting any slowdowns or road closures, and planning to alter your route or look for alternate stopping places.
     
  6. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    What your trying to tell me is corner cutting is best. And office staff get paid salary for doing almost nothing. Am I wrong?
     
  7. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Every 15 minutes how? While driving?
     
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  8. spyder7723

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    Google maps automatically updates. If there is a road closure it will alert me without doing anything but glancing at the device mounted to the side of my dash. No different than glancing at my pyro or oil temp gauge.
     
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  9. truckthatpassesyouby

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    Technically, it's a 24-hour rule. Since the 10 hour's are mandated. You're forced to work and then forced to sleep, like a dog.

    Show your companies you ain't no dog.

    Break the rule.

    I'm breaking my 14 tonight. F the DOT.
     
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  10. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Shhhhhhhh. Don't say that, the snowflakes will tattle.
     
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  11. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    You do have the option of the 8/2 split. But I guess that's too much work for you to figure out.

    Oh, and I'll buy you a coffee if you can show me where the regulations mandate that you sleep.
     
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